Posted on 02/26/2014 3:05:25 PM PST by Notary Sojac
If atheism and conservatism are incompatible, then I am not a conservative.
Yep
Finally. Somebody who uses “begs the question” correctly.
Conservative atheists are the ones who vote conservative and seldom mention their beliefs and don’t seek out groups to join so they can proclaim their atheism.
Agenda atheism is about as compatible with conservatism as agenda homosexuality.
A preponderance of atheists hanker for moral relativism, and as such, their foundation in conflict with the standards of virtue necessary for a free and prosperous society. It is not that no atheist can abide or thrive under such conditions, but that most of them prefer amorality and relish the confusion that ensues. There is danger in setting up the individual as the sole arbiter of right and wrong; in rugged individualism. A virtuous, prosperous society will take measures accountable also to, and for, the neighbor.
Deists are not atheists. They’re a softer more tolerable version of a pagan.
Besides, Atheism is only a transitional state.
If you’re an atheist, then ...
Where do your rights come from?
Why do you wear clothes?
Why are there seven days in a week?
How do you know what is good and what is evil?
If everything came from nothing out of nowhere,
if life is just a curious side effect of an unknowing and uncaring cosmos,
if when you die, you are just so much compost,
then why seek anything other than a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction?
I call BS. Prove it.
Yup.
OH really? What does it transition too?
Think about it. Without God, obviously we’d have no God-given unalienable rights. We’d have only the “rights” government decides we should have. That’s the way it was done all throughout history until our founding fathers recognized the “self-evident truth.” America was founded on the principle that all men are created equal by God and granted their unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness... and self-rule. No king. No dictator. No ruler. No king but God.
Without God, we have no life, no rights and no soul. The Marxists, fascists and godless totalitarians of every stripe want it that way. If man has no soul, then he’s no different from an animal. He can be bred, herded, worked and slaughtered like animals. Again, it’s been that way all through history. In our recent history there was Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and a host of others.
Now we have the godless Marxist/fascist Obama trying to repeat the 30’s. And our younger generations were not taught the truth of history. They have no idea why godless Marxism/fascism should be feared. Forgive them father, they know not what they do.
I don't care what my neighbor does, unless it is something that demands I shoot him or her.
The frightened bunny party is too stupid to figure it out but left wing groups are happily proclaiming their conservatism as a means of getting in the door where they can wreak havoc on the GOP.
I’ve got a hard left militant lesbian cousin who has proclaimed that she’s GOP proud....and she’s working on the Wendy Davis campaign right now.
Two birds with the same stone.
It's the agenda.
Leftism.
They clearly aren’t, the proof is that almost all atheists are liberal democrats, and are very powerful as leaders of the left and of liberalism, the few that vote with republicans, are almost all liberal republicans, judging by the ones on FR.
Even those few are almost all dedicated to challenging true conservatism and making the GOP more liberal.
A conservative atheist is a rare egg, hardly worth devoting much time to.
Historically speaking atheism is not an unknown element in conservatism. The philosophical antecedents of what we now know as conservative thinking do include quite a lot of non-religious ideas, and there have been non-religious or irreligious contributors here. Hume, for one. There is such a thing as a materialist conservatism.
On the other hand there are of course powerful religious roots in conservatism, even as a purely political philosophy.
For that matter there are powerful religious roots in liberalism or progressivism, socialism, even in socialist materialism. Its not for nothing that some call Communism a Christian heresy.
The GOP has already wreaked havoc on themselves.
That political party is cooked in my book.
Do I wind up voting for them? Yes.
Do I think they end up voting for and representing my belief system? NO.
Conservative thought and atheism are not compatible.
Godlessness leads to rejecting GOD GIVEN INALIENABLE RIGHTS.
Rights that are inherent in humanity that are given by God as the founders stated.
Atheism denies what the founders stated and believed.
Conservative thought seeks to preserve what the founders created and intended.
The Pilgrims and Puritans were Christians who came to this country seeking religious liberty. Early America, except for a few deists here and there (almost all of them Freemasons), was very much Christian. America was certainly NOT founded by atheists.
Conservatives seek to “conserve,” or preserve, original beliefs and values, in America’s case, it’s Christian heritage. Enter Notary Sojac an atheist who claims he is an American conservative. Is he seeking to “conserve” the Christian heritage of America? Absolutely not. He, thus, is no American conservative.
Maoist China was founded on atheism, there are “conservatives” there who bemoan the Christian meetings now taking place, who seek to “conserve” that country’s original atheism. Seems to me like Sojac should move to China, his kind of atheist conservatism would fit right in.
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