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Another point to buttress the argument that Jesus did not set up a system based on Socialism is when John and Peter met the beggar at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful.

In Acts 3:6 we learn that Peter told the beggar, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk."

Obviously Peter did not take money from others, nor did he demand that Herod take care of the man and his medical needs, No, he gave the man what all men truly need. Healing through Christ Jesus.

1 posted on 02/15/2014 8:05:22 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike

Liberal sure seem to claim to love a Jesus that they hate.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 8:09:17 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: OneVike

Socialism is slavery to the State.

Stalinists lie. Always.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 8:12:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: OneVike

If Jesus believes in self sacrifice for the good of others, how could he oppose Socialism when those are the principles that justify socialism?


4 posted on 02/15/2014 8:13:19 AM PST by albionin (A gawn fit's aye gettin.)
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To: OneVike

Jesus had problems with wealth. Camels passing through a needles eye and so on.

Let’s concentrate on what the Founding Fathers would have felt about the horrendous state of affairs of the Keynesian Regime (Keynesian moving toward Stalinist ). They are doing 360s in their graves.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 8:24:42 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: OneVike

Remember what Jesus said when He healed people... Go and sin no more. He expected the people to be self motivated to correct action after He helped them.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 8:24:49 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: OneVike
Judas was the first socialist:
Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."

He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. "It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me."

John 12:3-8


13 posted on 02/15/2014 8:34:20 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: OneVike

“Christian socialism”

A contradiction-in-terms.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 8:39:30 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: OneVike
to convince Christians that their Social agenda is morally equivalent with the teachings and life of Jesus Christ

The economic system that is compatible with God-given human nature, God-given natural rights, and the Biblical concept of justice, is free enterprise, market economy, and capitalism.

This economic system grants individuals freedom in their choices regarding consumption and production. Freedom protects the individual from coercion by the state, which is a necessary fact of socialism. Justice requires that man be free from state coercion in order to use his talents to God's glory, and with integrity to work and reap rewards. Further capitalism is based on private property, the legitimacy of which is affirmed in the Bible, and on encouragement of responsibility and just reward for work. Only a free economic system can provide this type of justice and protect men from coercion by other men.

29 posted on 02/15/2014 8:52:41 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: OneVike

In the Bible, I think it is accurate to say, the only time God intervenes in man’s political affairs is to give us governments to PUNISH us for our faithlessness.

So would Jesus give us a Socialist government? Depends on how mad He is with us.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 9:19:30 AM PST by DManA
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To: OneVike
. . when John and Peter met the beggar at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful . .

Seeing how the man was always at that gate every day, it is probable that Jesus has passed by this same man himself while entering the Temple. But Jesus' position on socialism can be wrapped up in Matthew 25:14-30

‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

42 posted on 02/15/2014 9:28:14 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: OneVike

Jesus didn’t believe in theft. He believed in kindness.

He would support the conservative that does his best and then personally gives to those that fall on hard times.

Socialism = Communism = Marxism = Theft.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 9:36:17 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: OneVike

The simple thing is this...

Christ sacrifice his self for others .......

he did not sacrifice others for others .......

and certainly do not sacrifice others for his self

Christianity is about willing self sacrifice. You need no law or goverment for this

Socialism is about sacrificing others, by force, if necessary, for others and yourself.

They’re not the same.


56 posted on 02/15/2014 10:10:19 AM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: OneVike
Sure. Modern day socialism wasn't around when He was. It required the development of states and ideas into something very different from what they were in Jesus's day. And in His own way Jesus was a great individualist, who addressed himself to individual souls, not to politicized masses.

The people who the writer is taking on though, are more likely to make the claim that Jesus wouldn't support modern day capitalism and that socialism is the alternative. It's like that with politics -- people are always more definite about what they oppose than about what they're for. If you want to argue with their point of view you have to start at the other end -- with what Jesus would think of today's capitalism.

FWIW: This is a tough topic because it starts with the always difficult (impossible?) question of what some historical figure would think of things that happened long after his or her death and adds all the complications of theology.

64 posted on 02/15/2014 10:41:54 AM PST by x
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To: OneVike
Michael Youssef comments
73 posted on 02/15/2014 11:13:44 AM PST by alrea
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To: OneVike

Giving comes down to choice and liberty vs. forced confiscation.


74 posted on 02/15/2014 11:15:34 AM PST by alrea
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To: OneVike

“duh”

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100 posted on 02/15/2014 2:46:43 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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