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According to Scripture (Sola Scriptura)
http://www.catholic.com ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 01/28/2014 7:27:17 PM PST by NKP_Vet

"If a teaching isn’t explicit in the Bible, then we don’t accept it as doctrine!" That belief, commonly known as sola scriptura, was a central component of all I believed as a Protestant. This bedrock Protestant teaching claims that Scripture alone is the sole rule of faith and morals for Christians. Diving deeper into its meaning to defend my Protestant faith against Catholicism about twenty years ago, I found that there was no uniform understanding of this teaching among Protestant pastors and no book I could read to get a better understanding of it.

What role does tradition play? How explicit does something have to be in Scripture before it can be called doctrine? Does Scripture tell us what is absolutely essential for us to believe as Christians? How can we determine the canon using sola scriptura? All these questions and more pointed to the central question: Where is sola scriptura itself taught in the Bible?

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To: restornu
As usual; LDS teaching has scrambled the verses that refer to the Incarnate body of Jesus with the Spiritualness of God the Father.

(Nice big and colorful text though!!)

521 posted on 02/05/2014 1:35:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them,

Have ye here any meat?

I imagine this is what the 15% or so of WORTHY Mormons (are you one?) are asking when the first cold snap of fall sets in...


Verses 12 & 13


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
 
1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
 
  1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
  3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
  5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
  7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
  8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
  12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
  14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
  15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
  16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
  19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
  20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.



522 posted on 02/05/2014 1:37:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
>> We learn from latter-day revelation<<

Hmmm, is that like Mohammad? You see there is a problem with that Elijah is resurrected stuff. Here is what the Holy Spirit told us through Paul.

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9

So here’s the deal. The Holy Spirit through the scriptures tell us about each resurrection to expect. The resurrection of Elijah ain’t in there. So unless you can show where the apostles taught that Elijah would be resurrected (which he can’t be because he hasn’t died yet) we have to understand that what the LDS say is “another gospel” and we are to consider it “accursed”.

>>He appeared again, in company with Moses and others, on April 3, 1836, in the Kirtland (Ohio) Temple and conferred the same keys upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.<<

Got any pictures? There are pictures as far back as 1826. Surely someone would have thought that such an historical occasion would deserve a picture. Did Moses and the others stick around or did they fade into the fog never to be seen again?

>>Thus the keys of this power are once again operative on the earth and are used in performing all the ordinances of the gospel for the living and the dead.

What do they do for the dead? Do they try to restart them or something?

523 posted on 02/05/2014 1:38:53 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: restornu
Elijah, has now a resurrect Body of flesh and bone.

Oh?

Is this what they teach non-BICs now?


Reason this out in your mind:

How could anyone have a resurrected body; if they never DIED to begin with?


2 Kings 2

As they continued walking and talking, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them, and Elijah ascended in a whirlwind into heaven. Elisha kept watching and crying out, "Father, father! The chariots of Israel and its horsemen!"

524 posted on 02/05/2014 1:42:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

Sayin’ it twice ain’t gonna make it happen.


525 posted on 02/05/2014 1:43:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roamer_1
It would do you well to understand what a prophet is.

Look to Mormonism to see what a FALSE one looks like.

526 posted on 02/05/2014 1:44:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

I shudda read ahead!


527 posted on 02/05/2014 1:44:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PhilipFreneau
Job 19:26 Literal translation from the Greek.

“And after my skin hath compassed this body, Then from my flesh I see God”.

Jesus ate meat after His resurrection.

528 posted on 02/05/2014 1:46:12 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: restornu
We learn from latter-day revelation that Elijah...

There's yer problem!

DEMONIC visitations!


529 posted on 02/05/2014 1:47:01 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yeah, and ya coulda had a V8 too!


530 posted on 02/05/2014 1:49:04 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: PhilipFreneau
Philip I agree with most of what you said but many for some reason keep visualizing it will be like our temporal body subject to mortality it is not it is a pure vessel from the Lord.

It is physical but not how so many conjure up! FYI

Resurrection

See also Atone, Atonement; Body; Death, Physical; Immortal, Immortality; Jesus Christ; Spirit

The reuniting of the spirit body with the physical body of flesh and bones after death. After resurrection, the spirit and body will never again be separated, and the person will become immortal. Every person born on earth will be resurrected because Jesus Christ overcame death (1 Cor. 15:20–22).

Jesus Christ was the first person to be resurrected on this earth (Acts 26:23; Col. 1:18; Rev. 1:5). The New Testament gives ample evidence that Jesus rose with his physical body: his tomb was empty, he ate fish and honey, he had a body of flesh and bones, people touched him, and the angels said he had risen (Mark 16:1–6; Luke 24:1–12, 36–43; John 20:1–18). Latter-day revelation confirms the reality of the resurrection of Christ and of all mankind (Alma 11:40–45; 40; 3 Ne. 11:1–17; D&C 76; Moses 7:62).

All people will not be resurrected to the same glory (1 Cor. 15:39–42; D&C 76:89–98), nor will all be resurrected at the same time (1 Cor. 15:22–23; Alma 40:8; D&C 76:64–65, 85). Many Saints were resurrected after Christ’s resurrection (Matt. 27:52). The righteous will be resurrected before the wicked and will come forth in the first resurrection (1 Thes. 4:16); the unrepentant sinners will come forth in the last resurrection (Rev. 20:5–13; D&C 76:85).


531 posted on 02/05/2014 1:49:27 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu
I am just passing this on I know many will feel the need to feel defensive which I understand and appreciate those positions.

There's nothing to defend.

NO one shook anyone's hands in the Kirtland Temple; the only SURE way (according to JS) to tell if yer being fooled or not.


BONES!!!


 Doctrine and Covenants       Section 129

 
Instructions given by Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, 9 February 1843, making known three grand keys by which the correct nature of ministering angels and spirits may be distinguished (see History of the Church, 5:267).

1–3, There are both resurrected and spirit bodies in heaven; 4–9, Keys are given whereby messengers from beyond the veil may be identified.
1 There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones;
2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
3 Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.
4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.
5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.
6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear;
7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive; but he will still deliver his message.
8 If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him.
9 These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.

       Joseph Smith

532 posted on 02/05/2014 1:49:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Philip I agree with most of what you said....

I

smell

APOSTACY!!!


7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

533 posted on 02/05/2014 1:53:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roamer_1

>>>That is hardly surprising - The orthodox Reformed are Partial-Preterist in their Eschatology.<<<

Partial Preterist? That is like being partly pregnant. It is a nonsenical term.

>>>That your literature is within the Preterist camp isn’t to be doubted.<<<

It is very much to be doubted. A serious researcher will not be blinded by the headlines, but will find out the actual positions of the individual(s) in question. One with the intent to smear, will ignore even hard evidence to the contrary. Which are you?

Now, if you insist on claiming that preterism, which by definition means “all prophecy was fulfilled upon the destruction of Jerusalem,” is the same as postmillennialism, which by definition means, “Christ will resurrect us in the future,” then please add a tagline that reads “partially-deceptive.”

>>>”Yahoo: Dwight Wilson Preterist At the very least, simple searches show the Preterists using the literature you recommend as proofs in themselves.”<<<

At least you are not batting “0”. One thing you may not realize is that many postmillennialists wear the “preterist” label as a badge of honor. They assume that anything a futurist disapproves of can only be a good thing. LOL!

But I am not one of them, because many Dispensationalist have been indoctrinated into “poisoning the well” with smears like “heresy” and other slanderous words, against anyone who opposes their non-biblical, “dual covenant” theology. And that is a fact that cannot be ignored.

Even Cynical Bear, the person you are defending, has already smeared me with the heretic label. That is why I have a universal definition for heretic: a heretic is anyone who labels me a heretic.
However, I also have more specific definitions, such as the denial of Christ.

>>>No need to explain - I too spent years intentionally focused upon the Book. I know that seclusion well. That is where I came to question the supercessionist, partial-preterist, ultra orthodox Calvinist religion of my yoot. If I see where you are, it is because I used to be there.<<<

Show me from the scriptures what you used to believe. I am very curious.

Philip


534 posted on 02/05/2014 2:07:55 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
>>Even Cynical Bear, the person you are defending<<

There ya go again!!!!

535 posted on 02/05/2014 2:20:42 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: PhilipFreneau
[roamer_1:] Am I satisfied that YHWH has fulfilled this wholly? No. When the Malki Tzedek sits in Jerusalem, “the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever”, THEN is this prophecy completed.

Let’s say for the sake of argument that Ezekiel’s prophesy was for a third temple. In chapter 43 the Lord indicated the existence of the temple was conditional:

“Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever. Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern. And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.” (Eze 43:9-11 KJV)

Israel polluted the 2nd Temple with all sorts of abominations, and continued polluting up to time of its destruction in AD 70. Would that not negate any future Third Temple?

The quote you reference is pointed directly at the House of Israel, and is undoubtedly future. Can YOU measure the pattern of the Temple? Can YOU understand the form of the House, the fashion of it, it's comings and goings, and all the forms thereof??? Do YOU understand the laws and ordinances thereof? And it is certainly not conditional - that is the declaration from the fall of Adam all the way through to Revelation.

If there is a third Temple, how are the animal sacrifices handled? Christ has already paid for our sins with the sacrifice of himself; so is it true what Scofield wrote in 1909 Reference Bible that the animal sacrifices will be ceremonial? And if they are merely ceremonial, why slaughter the animals?

You must be of the impression that there was EVER an efficacy in the blood of animals. Certainly Scofield seems to be. Secondly, there are many kinds of sacrifice, not only atonement... and lastly, why kill the animals... In Melchizedek we are made priests and kings - the priests eat the sacrifice of the Temple.... Ever heard of barbeque? FOR SURE the Torah will go forth from Jerusalem - the Torah and the Holy Days will be kept - and the whole earth will keep them. That FRiend, has never happened yet.

536 posted on 02/05/2014 2:25:06 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Just sharing...

Let’s say for the sake of argument that Ezekiel’s prophesy was for a third temple. In chapter 43 the Lord indicated the existence of the temple was conditional:

“Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever. Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern. And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.” (Eze 43:9-11 KJV)

Third Nephi The Book of Nephi the Son of Nephi, Who Was the Son of Helaman

Chapter 21

Israel will be gathered when the Book of Mormon comes forth—The Gentiles will be established as a free people in America—They will be saved if they believe and obey; otherwise, they will be cut off and destroyed—Israel will build the New Jerusalem, and the lost tribes will return. About A.D. 34.

 And verily I say unto you, I give unto you a asign, that ye may know the btime when these things shall be about to take place—that I shall gather in, from their long dispersion, my people, O house of Israel, and shall establish again among them my Zion;

 And behold, this is the thing which I will give unto you for a sign—for verily I say unto you that awhen these things which I declare unto you, and which I shall declare unto you hereafter of myself, and by the power of the Holy Ghost which shall be given unto you of the Father, shall be made known unto the Gentiles that they may know concerning this people who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, and concerning this my people who shall be scattered by them;

 Verily, verily, I say unto you, when these things shall be made aknown unto them of the Father, and shall come forth of the Father, bfrom them unto you;

 For it is wisdom in the Father that they should be established in this land, and be set up as a afree people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth from them unto a remnant of your seed, that the bcovenant of the Father may be fulfilled which he hath covenanted with his people, O house of Israel;

 Therefore, when these works and the works which shall be wrought among you hereafter shall come forth afrom the Gentiles, unto your bseed which shall dwindle in unbelief because of iniquity;

 For thus it behooveth the Father that it should come forth from the aGentiles, that he may show forth his power unto the Gentiles, for this cause that the Gentiles, if they will not harden their hearts, that they may repent and come unto me and be baptized in my name and know of the true points of my doctrine, that they may be bnumbered among my people, O house of Israel;

 And when these things come to pass that thy aseed shall begin to know these things—it shall be a sign unto them, that they may know that the work of the Father hath already commenced unto the fulfilling of the covenant which he hath made unto the people who are of the house of Israel.

 And when that day shall come, it shall come to pass that kings shall shut their mouths; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they aconsider.

 For in that day, for my sake shall the Father awork a work, which shall be a great and a bmarvelous cwork among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.

 10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be amarred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that bmy wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.

 11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause ahim to bring forth unto the bGentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be ccut off from among my people who are of the covenant.

 12 And my people who are a remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of them as a alion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

 13 Their hand shall be lifted up upon their aadversaries, and all their enemies shall be cut off.

 14 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they arepent; for it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy bchariots;

 15 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy astrongholds;

 16 And I will cut off awitchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no more soothsayers;

 17 Thy agraven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands;

 18 And I will pluck up thy agroves out of the midst of thee; so will I destroy thy cities.

 19 And it shall come to pass that all alyings, and deceivings, and envyings, and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away.

 20 For it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that at that aday whosoever will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I bcut off from among my people, O house of Israel;

 21 And I will execute avengeance and bfury upon them, even as upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

 22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and aharden not their hearts, I will bestablish my church among them, and they shall come in unto the covenant and be cnumbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I have given this land for their dinheritance;

 23 And they shall assist my apeople, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which shall be called the bNew Jerusalem.

 24 And then shall athey assist my people that they may be gathered in, who are scattered upon all the face of the land, in unto the New Jerusalem.

 25 And then shall the apower of heaven come down among them; and bI also will be in the midst.

 26 And then shall the work of the Father commence at that day, even awhen this gospel shall be preached among the remnant of bthis people. Verily I say unto you, at that day shall the work of the Father commence among all the dispersed of my people, yea, even the tribes which have been clost, which the Father hath led away out of Jerusalem.

 27 Yea, the work shall commence among all the adispersed of my people, with the Father to prepare the way whereby they may bcome unto me, that they may call on the Father in my name.

 28 Yea, and then shall the work commence, with the Father among all nations in preparing the way whereby his people may be agathered home to the land of their inheritance.

 29 And they shall go out from all nations; and they shall anot go out in bhaste, nor go by flight, for I will go before them, saith the Father, and I will be their rearward.


537 posted on 02/05/2014 2:49:24 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: CynicalBear
Let me apologize up front for using your name in my last post to roamer without pinging you. :)

>>Job 19:26 Literal translation from the Greek. “And after my skin hath compassed this body, Then from my flesh I see God”.<<<

That is from Young's. I am glad you brought that up. This is that verse, from Young's Literal Translation, in context:

"That--I have known my Redeemer, The Living and the Last, For the dust he doth rise. And after my skin hath compassed this [body], Then from my flesh I see God: Whom I--I see on my side, And mine eyes have beheld, and not a stranger, Consumed have been my reins in my bosom." (Job 19:25-27 YLT)

The reason there is such a discrepancy in the YLT translation than the KJV is there were several words added to the KJV by the translators to this verse (though, worms, and body.) That led to other words being mistranslated.

Anyway, your guess is as good as mine as to what that means. I guess it all comes down to whether you believe the plain words of Paul and Peter, of the vague words of Job.

>>>Jesus ate meat after His resurrection.<<<

He did lots of things to show his disciples that he was the risen Christ. Recall they did not recognize him as Christ, but thought he was a spirit. At that time he ate some fish and honey.

But also recall that at time he told them this:

"And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high." (Luke 24:49 KJV)

When describing that event before he was crucified, Jesus said this:

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;" (John 16:7-10 KJV)

And, so far, no one has seen him. John only saw his angel:

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Rev 22:16 KJV)

I suspect Jesus meant what he said.

Philip

538 posted on 02/05/2014 3:02:40 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: roamer_1; PhilipFreneau

The Book of Ether

Chapter 13

Ether speaks of a New Jerusalem to be built in America by the seed of Joseph—He prophesies, is cast out, writes the Jaredite history, and foretells the destruction of the Jaredites—War rages over all the land.

 And now I, Moroni, proceed to finish my record concerning the destruction of the people of whom I have been writing.

 For behold, they rejected all the words of Ether; for he truly told them of all things, from the beginning of man; and that after the waters had areceded from off the face of this bland it became a choice land above all other lands, a chosen land of the Lord; wherefore the Lord would have that all men should cserve him who dwell upon the face thereof;

 And that it was the place of the aNew Jerusalem, which should bcome down out of heaven, and the holy sanctuary of the Lord.

 Behold, Ether saw the days of Christ, and he spake concerning a aNew Jerusalem upon this land.

 And he spake also concerning the house of Israel, and the aJerusalem from whence bLehi should come—after it should be destroyed it should be built up again, a choly city unto the Lord; wherefore, it could not be a new Jerusalem for it had been in a time of old; but it should be built up again, and become a holy city of the Lord; and it should be built unto the house of Israel—

 And that a aNew Jerusalem should be built up upon this land, unto the remnant of the seed of bJoseph, for which things there has been a ctype.

 For as Joseph brought his father down into the land of aEgypt, even so he died there; wherefore, the Lord brought a remnant of the seed of Joseph out of the land of Jerusalem, that he might be merciful unto the seed of Joseph that they should bperish not, even as he was merciful unto the father of Joseph that he should perish not.

 Wherefore, the remnant of the house of Joseph shall be built upon this aland; and it shall be a land of their inheritance; and they shall build up a holy bcity unto the Lord, like unto the Jerusalem of old; and they shall cno more be confounded, until the end come when the earth shall pass away.

 And there shall be a anew heaven and a new earth; and they shall be like unto the old save the old have passed away, and all things have become new.

 10 And then cometh the New Jerusalem; and blessed are they who dwell therein, for it is they whose garments are awhite through the blood of the Lamb; and they are they who are numbered among the remnant of the seed of Joseph, who were of the house of Israel.

 11 And then also cometh the aJerusalem of old; and the inhabitants thereof, blessed are they, for they have been washed in the blood of the Lamb; and they are they who were scattered and gathered in from the four quarters of the earth, and from the bnorth countries, and are partakers of the fulfilling of the covenant which God made with their father, cAbraham.

 12 And when these things come, bringeth to pass the scripture which saith, there are they who were afirst, who shall be last; and there are they who were last, who shall be first.

 13 And I was about to write more, but I am forbidden; but great and marvelous were the prophecies of Ether; but they esteemed him as naught, and cast him out; and he ahid himself in the cavity of a rock by day, and by night he went forth viewing the things which should come upon the people.

 14 And as he dwelt in the cavity of a rock he made the aremainder of this record, viewing the destructions which came upon the people, by night.

 15 And it came to pass that in that same year in which he was cast out from among the people there began to be a great war among the people, for there were many who rose up, who were mighty men, and sought to destroy Coriantumr by their secret plans of wickedness, of which hath been spoken.

 16 And now Coriantumr, having studied, himself, in all the arts of war and all the cunning of the world, wherefore he gave battle unto them who sought to destroy him.

 17 But he repented not, neither his afair sons nor daughters; neither the fair sons and daughters of Cohor; neither the fair sons and daughters of Corihor; and in fine, there were none of the fair sons and daughters upon the face of the whole earth who repented of their sins.

 18 Wherefore, it came to pass that in the first year that Ether dwelt in the cavity of a rock, there were many people who were slain by the sword of those asecret combinations, fighting against Coriantumr that they might obtain the kingdom.

 19 And it came to pass that the sons of Coriantumr fought much and bled much.

 20 And in the second year the word of the Lord came to Ether, that he should go and aprophesy unto bCoriantumr that, if he would repent, and all his household, the Lord would give unto him his kingdom and spare the people—

 21 Otherwise they should be destroyed, and all his household save it were himself. And he should only live to see the fulfilling of the prophecies which had been spoken concerning aanother people receiving the land for their inheritance; and Coriantumr should receive a burial by them; and every soul should be destroyed save it were bCoriantumr.

 22 And it came to pass that Coriantumr repented not, neither his household, neither the people; and the wars ceased not; and they sought to akill Ether, but he fled from before them and hid again in the cavity of the rock.

 23 And it came to pass that there arose up Shared, and he also gave battle unto Coriantumr; and he did beat him, insomuch that in the third year he did bring him into captivity.

 24 And the sons of Coriantumr, in the fourth year, did beat Shared, and did obtain the kingdom again unto their father.

 25 Now there began to be a war upon all the face of the land, aevery man with his band fighting for that which he desired.

 26 And there were robbers, and in fine, all manner of wickedness upon all the face of the land.

 27 And it came to pass that Coriantumr was exceedingly angry with Shared, and he went against him with his armies to battle; and they did meet in great anger, and they did meet in the valley of Gilgal; and the battle became exceedingly sore.

 28 And it came to pass that Shared fought against him for the space of three days. And it came to pass that Coriantumr beat him, and did pursue him until he came to the plains of Heshlon.

 29 And it came to pass that Shared gave him battle again upon the plains; and behold, he did beat Coriantumr, and drove him back again to the valley of Gilgal.

 30 And Coriantumr gave Shared battle again in the valley of Gilgal, in which he beat Shared and slew him.

 31 And Shared wounded Coriantumr in his thigh, that he did not go to battle again for the space of two years, in which time all the people upon the face of the land were shedding blood, and there was none to restrain them.


539 posted on 02/05/2014 3:20:12 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 84

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, September 22 and 23, 1832. During the month of September, elders had begun to return from their missions in the eastern states and to make reports of their labors. It was while they were together in this season of joy that the following communication was received. The Prophet designated it a revelation on priesthood.

1–5, The New Jerusalem and the temple will be built in Missouri; 6–17, The line of priesthood from Moses to Adam is given; 18–25, The greater priesthood holds the key of the knowledge of God; 26–32, The lesser priesthood holds the key of the ministering of angels and of the preparatory gospel; 33–44, Men gain eternal life through the oath and covenant of the priesthood; 45–53, The Spirit of Christ enlightens men, and the world lies in sin; 54–61, The Saints must testify of those things they have received; 62–76, They are to preach the gospel, and signs will follow; 77–91, Elders are to go forth without purse or scrip, and the Lord will care for their needs; 92–97, Plagues and cursings await those who reject the gospel; 98–102, The new song of the redemption of Zion is given; 103–110, Let every man stand in his own office and labor in his own calling; 111–120, The Lord’s servants are to proclaim the abomination of desolation of the last days.

 A arevelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they bunited their hearts and clifted their voices on high.

 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the arestoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his bprophets, and for the cgathering of his dsaints to stand upon eMount Zion, which shall be the city of fNew Jerusalem.

 Which city shall be abuilt, beginning at the btemple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and cdedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased.

 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city aNew Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which btemple shall be creared in this dgeneration.

 For verily this generation shall not all apass away until an bhouse shall be built unto the Lord, and a ccloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the dglory of the Lord, which shall fill the house.

 aAnd the bsons of Moses, according to the Holy Priesthood which he received under the chand of his father-in-law, dJethro;

 And Jethro received it under the hand of Caleb;

 And Caleb received it under the hand of Elihu;

 And Elihu under the hand of Jeremy;

 10 And Jeremy under the hand of Gad;

 11 And Gad under the hand of Esaias;

 12 And Esaias received it under the hand of God.

 13 aEsaias also lived in the days of Abraham, and was blessed of him—

 14 Which aAbraham received the priesthood from bMelchizedek, who received it through the lineage of his fathers, even till cNoah;

 15 And from Noah till aEnoch, through the lineage of their fathers;

 16 And from Enoch to aAbel, who was slain by the bconspiracy of his brother, who creceived the priesthood by the commandments of God, by the hand of his father dAdam, who was the first man—

 17 Which apriesthood bcontinueth in the church of God in all generations, and is without cbeginning of days or end of years.

 18 And the Lord confirmed a apriesthood also upon bAaron and his cseed, throughout all their generations, which priesthood also continueth and dabideth forever with the priesthood which is after the holiest order of God.

 19 And this greater apriesthood administereth the gospel and holdeth the bkey of the cmysteries of the kingdom, even the key of the dknowledge of God.

 20 Therefore, in the aordinances thereof, the power of bgodliness is manifest.

 21 And without the ordinances thereof, and the aauthority of the priesthood, the power of godliness is bnot manifest unto men in the flesh;

 22 For without this no aman can see the face of God, even the Father, and live.

 23 Now this aMoses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to bsanctify his people that they might cbehold the face of God;

 24 But they ahardened their hearts and could not endure his bpresence; therefore, the Lord in his cwrath, for his danger was kindled against them, swore that they should not eenter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.

 25 Therefore, he took aMoses out of their midst, and the Holy bPriesthood also;

 26 And the lesser apriesthood continued, which priesthood holdeth the bkey of the cministering of angels and the dpreparatory gospel;

 27 Which agospel is the gospel of brepentance and of cbaptism, and the dremission of sins, and the elaw of fcarnal commandments, which the Lord in his wrath caused to continue with the house of Aaron among the children of Israel until gJohn, whom God raised up, being hfilled with the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb.

 28 For he was baptized while he was yet in his childhood, and was aordained by the angel of God at the time he was beight days old unto this power, to overthrow the kingdom of the Jews, and to cmake straight the way of the Lord before the face of his people, to prepare them for the dcoming of the Lord, in whose hand is given eall power.

 29 And again, the aoffices of elder and bishop are necessary bappendages belonging unto the high priesthood.

 30 And again, the offices of ateacher and deacon are necessary appendages belonging to the lesser priesthood, which priesthood was confirmed upon bAaron and his sons.

 31 Therefore, as I said aconcerning the sons of Moses—for the sons of Moses and also the sons of Aaron shall offer an acceptable boffering and sacrifice in the house of the Lord, which house shall be built unto the Lord in this generation, upon the consecrated cspot as I have appointed—

 32 And the sons of Moses and of Aaron shall be filled with the aglory of the Lord, upon bMount Zion in the Lord’s house, whose sons are ye; and also many whom I have called and sent forth to build up my cchurch.

 33 For whoso is afaithful unto the obtaining these two bpriesthoods of which I have spoken, and the cmagnifying their calling, are dsanctified by the Spirit unto the erenewing of their bodies.

 34 They become the asons of Moses and of Aaron and the bseed of cAbraham, and the church and kingdom, and the delect of God.

 35 And also all they who receive this priesthood areceive me, saith the Lord;

 36 For he that receiveth my servants areceiveth me;

 37 And he that areceiveth me receiveth my Father;

 38 And he that receiveth my Father receiveth my Father’s akingdom; therefore ball that my Father hath shall be given unto him.

 39 And this is according to the aoath and covenant which belongeth to the priesthood.

 40 Therefore, all those who receive the apriesthood, receive this boath and covenant of my Father, which he cannot break, neither can it be moved.

 41 But whoso breaketh this acovenant after he hath received it, and altogether turneth therefrom, shall bnot have forgiveness of sins in this world nor in the world to come.

 42 And wo unto all those who come not unto this priesthood which ye have received, which I now confirm upon you who are present this day, by mine own voice out of the heavens; and even I have given the heavenly hosts and mine angels acharge concerning you.

 43 And I now give unto you a commandment to beware concerning yourselves, to give adiligent bheed to the words of eternal life.

 44 For you shall alive by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God.

 45 For the aword of the Lord is truth, and whatsoever is truth is blight, and whatsoever is light is cSpirit, even the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

 46 And the aSpirit giveth blight to cevery man that cometh into the world; and the Spirit enlighteneth every man through the world, that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit.

 47 And every one that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit acometh unto God, even the Father.

 48 And the Father ateacheth him of the covenant which he has brenewed and confirmed upon you, which is confirmed upon you for your sakes, and not for your sakes only, but for the sake of the cwhole world.

 49 And the whole aworld lieth in sin, and groaneth under bdarkness and under the cbondage of sin.

 50 And by this you may know they are under the abondage of sin, because they come not unto me.

 51 For whoso cometh not unto me is under the abondage of sin.

 52 And whoso receiveth not my voice is not acquainted with amy voice, and is not of me.

 53 And by this you may know the righteous from the wicked, and that the whole aworld bgroaneth under sin and darkness even now.

 54 And your aminds in times past have been bdarkened because of cunbelief, and because you have treated dlightly the things you have received—

 55 Which avanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation.

 56 And this condemnation resteth upon the children of aZion, even all.

 57 And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new acovenant, even the bBook of Mormon and the cformer commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to ddo according to that which I have written—

 58 That they may bring forth afruit meet for their Father’s kingdom; otherwise there remaineth a bscourge and judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion.

 59 For shall the children of the kingdom apollute my holy land? Verily, I say unto you, Nay.

 60 Verily, verily, I say unto you who now hear my awords, which are my voice, blessed are ye inasmuch as you receive these things;

 61 For I will aforgive you of your sins with this commandment—that you remain bsteadfast in your minds in csolemnity and the spirit of prayer, in bearing dtestimony to all the world of those things which are communicated unto you.

62 Therefore, ago ye into all the world; and unto whatsoever place ye cannot go ye shall send, that the testimony may go from you into all the world unto every creature.

63 And as I said unto mine apostles, even so I say unto you, for you are mine aapostles, even God’s high priests; ye are they whom my Father hath bgiven me; ye are my cfriends;

64 Therefore, as I said unto mine apostles I say unto you again, that every asoul who bbelieveth on your words, and is baptized by water for the cremission of sins, shall dreceive the Holy Ghost.

65 And these asigns shall follow them that believe—

66 In my name they shall do many wonderful aworks;

67 In my aname they shall cast out devils;

68 In my name they shall aheal the sick;

69 In my name they shall aopen the eyes of the blind, and unstop the ears of the deaf;

70 And the tongue of the dumb shall speak;

71 And if any man shall administer apoison unto them it shall not hurt them;

72 And the apoison of a serpent shall not have power to harm them.

73 But a commandment I give unto them, that they shall not aboast themselves of these things, neither speak them before the world; for these things are given unto you for your profit and for salvation.

74 Verily, verily, I say unto you, they who believe not on your words, and are not abaptized in water in my name, for the bremission of their sins, that they may receive the Holy Ghost, shall be cdamned, and shall not come into my Father’s kingdom where my Father and I am.

75 And this revelation unto you, and commandment, is in force from this very hour upon all the aworld, and the gospel is unto all who have not received it.

76 But, verily I say unto all those to whom the kingdom has been given—from you it amust be bpreached unto them, that they shall repent of their former evil works; for they are to be upbraided for their evil chearts of unbelief, and your brethren in Zion for their drebellion against you at the time I sent you.

77 And again I say unto you, my friends, for from henceforth I shall call you afriends, it is expedient that I give unto you this commandment, that ye become even as my friends in days when I was with them, traveling to preach the gospel in my power;

78 For I suffered them not to have apurse or scrip, neither two coats.

79 Behold, I asend you out to bprove the world, and the laborer is worthy of his chire.

80 And any man that shall go and preach this agospel of the kingdom, and fail not to continue bfaithful in all things, shall not be weary in mind, neither darkened, neither in body, limb, nor joint; and a chair of his head shall not fall to the ground unnoticed. And they shall not go hungry, neither athirst.

81 Therefore, take ye no athought for the morrow, for what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, or wherewithal ye shall be clothed.

82 For, aconsider the blilies of the field, how they grow, they toil not, neither do they spin; and the kingdoms of the world, in all their glory, are not arrayed like one of these.

83 For your aFather, who is in heaven, bknoweth that you have need of all these things.

84 Therefore, let the morrow take athought for the things of itself.

85 Neither take ye thought beforehand awhat ye shall say; but btreasure up in your minds continually the words of life, and it shall be cgiven you in the very hour that portion that shall be meted unto every man.

86 Therefore, let no man among you, for this commandment is unto all the afaithful who are called of God in the church unto the ministry, from this hour take purse or scrip, that goeth forth to proclaim this gospel of the kingdom.

87 Behold, I send you out to areprove the world of all their unrighteous deeds, and to teach them of a judgment which is to come.

88 And whoso areceiveth you, there I will be also, for I will go bbefore your face. I will be on your right hand and on your left, and my cSpirit shall be in your hearts, and mine dangels round about you, to bear you up.

89 Whoso receiveth you receiveth me; and the same will feed you, and clothe you, and give you money.

90 And he who feeds you, or clothes you, or gives you money, shall in nowise alose his reward.

91 And he that doeth not these things is not my disciple; by this you may know amy disciples.

92 He that receiveth you not, go away from him alone by yourselves, and acleanse your feet even with water, pure water, whether in heat or in cold, and bear testimony of it unto your Father which is in heaven, and return not again unto that man.

93 And in whatsoever village or city ye enter, do likewise.

94 Nevertheless, search diligently and spare not; and wo unto that house, or that village or city that rejecteth you, or your words, or your testimony concerning me.

95 Wo, I say again, unto that house, or that village or city that rejecteth you, or your words, or your testimony of me;

96 For I, the aAlmighty, have laid my hands upon the nations, to bscourge them for their cwickedness.

97 And aplagues shall go forth, and they shall not be taken from the earth until I have completed my work, which shall be cut bshort in righteousness—

98 Until all shall aknow me, who remain, even from the least unto the greatest, and shall be filled with the knowledge of the Lord, and shall bsee eye to eye, and shall lift up their voice, and with the voice together csing this new song, saying:

99 The Lord hath brought again Zion;The Lord hath aredeemed his people, bIsrael,According to the celection of dgrace,Which was brought to pass by the faithAnd ecovenant of their fathers.

100 The Lord hath redeemed his people;And Satan is abound and btime is no longer.The Lord hath gathered all things in cone.The Lord hath brought down dZion from above.The Lord hath ebrought up Zion from beneath.

101 The aearth hath travailed and bbrought forth her strength;And truth is established in her bowels;And the heavens have smiled upon her;And she is clothed with the cglory of her God;For he dstands in the midst of his epeople.

102 Glory, and honor, and power, and might,Be ascribed to our God; for he is full of amercy,Justice, grace and truth, and bpeace,Forever and ever, Amen.

103 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, it is expedient that every man who goes forth to proclaim mine everlasting gospel, that inasmuch as they have afamilies, and receive bmoney by gift, that they should send it unto them or make use of it for their benefit, as the Lord shall direct them, for thus it seemeth me good.

104 And let all those who have not families, who receive amoney, send it up unto the bishop in Zion, or unto the bishop in Ohio, that it may be consecrated for the bringing forth of the revelations and the printing thereof, and for establishing Zion.

105 And if any man shall give unto any of you a coat, or a suit, take the old and cast it unto the apoor, and go on your way rejoicing.

106 And if any man among you be astrong in the Spirit, let him take with him him that is bweak, that he may be cedified in all dmeekness, that he may become strong also.

107 Therefore, take with you those who are ordained unto the alesser priesthood, and send them bbefore you to make appointments, and to prepare the way, and to fill appointments that you yourselves are not able to fill.

108 Behold, this is the way that mine apostles, in ancient days, built up my church unto me.

109 Therefore, let every man stand in his own aoffice, and blabor in his own calling; and let not the chead say unto the feet it hath no need of the feet; for without the feet how shall the body be able to stand?

110 Also the body hath need of every amember, that all may be bedified together, that the system may be kept perfect.

111 And behold, the ahigh priests should travel, and also the elders, and also the lesser bpriests; but the cdeacons and dteachers should be appointed to ewatch over the church, to be standing ministers unto the church.

112 And the bishop, Newel K. Whitney, also should travel round about and among all the churches, searching after the poor to aadminister to their wants by bhumbling the rich and the proud.

113 He should also employ an aagent to take charge and to do his secular business as he shall direct.

114 Nevertheless, let the bishop go unto the city of New York, also to the city of Albany, and also to the city of Boston, and warn the people of those acities with the sound of the gospel, with a loud voice, of the bdesolation and utter abolishment which await them if they do reject these things.

115 For if they do reject these things the hour of their judgment is nigh, and their house shall be left unto them adesolate.

116 Let him atrust in me and he shall not be bconfounded; and a chair of his head shall not fall to the ground unnoticed.

117 And verily I say unto you, the rest of my servants, go ye forth as your circumstances shall permit, in your several callings, unto the great and notable cities and villages, areproving the world in righteousness of all their unrighteous and ungodly deeds, setting forth clearly and understandingly the desolation of babomination in the last days.

118 For, with you saith the Lord aAlmighty, I will brend their ckingdoms; I will not only dshake the earth, but the estarry heavens shall tremble.

119 For I, the Lord, have put forth my hand to exert the apowers of heaven; ye cannot see it now, yet a blittle while and ye shall see it, and know that I am, and that cI will dcome and reign with my people.

120 I am aAlpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Amen.


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