Posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet
1. Best One-Sentence Summary: I am convinced that the Catholic Church conforms much more closely to all of the biblical data, offers the only coherent view of the history of Christianity (i.e., Christian, apostolic Tradition), and possesses the most profound and sublime Christian morality, spirituality, social ethic, and philosophy.
2. Alternate: I am a Catholic because I sincerely believe, by virtue of much cumulative evidence, that Catholicism is true, and that the Catholic Church is the visible Church divinely-established by our Lord Jesus, against which the gates of hell cannot and will not prevail (Mt 16:18), thereby possessing an authority to which I feel bound in Christian duty to submit.
3. 2nd Alternate: I left Protestantism because it was seriously deficient in its interpretation of the Bible (e.g., "faith alone" and many other "Catholic" doctrines - see evidences below), inconsistently selective in its espousal of various Catholic Traditions (e.g., the Canon of the Bible), inadequate in its ecclesiology, lacking a sensible view of Christian history (e.g., "Scripture alone"), compromised morally (e.g., contraception, divorce), and unbiblically schismatic, anarchical, and relativistic. I don't therefore believe that Protestantism is all bad (not by a long shot), but these are some of the major deficiencies I eventually saw as fatal to the "theory" of Protestantism, over against Catholicism. All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians.
4. Catholicism isn't formally divided and sectarian (Jn 17:20-23; Rom 16:17; 1 Cor 1:10-13).
5. Catholic unity makes Christianity and Jesus more believable to the world (Jn 17:23).
6. Catholicism, because of its unified, complete, fully supernatural Christian vision, mitigates against secularization and humanism.
7. Catholicism avoids an unbiblical individualism which undermines Christian community (e.g., 1 Cor 12:25-26).
8. Catholicism avoids theological relativism, by means of dogmatic certainty and the centrality of the papacy.
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I wasn’t using hyperbole. But I will remember this cartoon in case I am ever tempted to.
Absolutely NOT!
Scripture is credible because it's the God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Word of God recognized as that long before the RCC was around to add it's meaningless stamp of approval to it.
Scripture does not stand or fall on the Catholic church.
God.
And obviously the Catholic church has not learned its lesson from Herod.....
Acts 12:21-24 On an appointed day Herod put on his royal robes, took his seat upon the throne, and delivered an oration to them. And the people were shouting, “The voice of a god, and not of a man!” Immediately an angel of the Lord struck him down, because he did not give God the glory, and he was eaten by worms and breathed his last. But the word of God increased and multiplied.
Giving the glory to man, the created being, instead of the Creator, never ends well.
What is the sin against the Holy Spirit?
It is the sin of attributing to Satan works that are manifestly the work of God.
To compare holy men like Padre Pio and Solanus Casey to Herod is to commit the sin against the Holy Spirit.
You lie when you say that Catholics do not give the glory to God.
I notice you don’t answer my question: How DO you explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes? How do YOU explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes?
You cling to a rigid, ideological position and shut your eyes to manifest good.
What is the sin against the Holy Spirit?
It is the sin of attributing to Satan works that are manifestly the work of God.
To compare holy men like Padre Pio and Solanus Casey to Herod is to commit the sin against the Holy Spirit.
You lie when you say that Catholics do not give the glory to God.
I notice you don’t answer my question: How DO you explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes? How do YOU explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes?
You cling to a rigid, ideological position and shut your eyes to manifest good.
What is the sin against the Holy Spirit?
It is the sin of attributing to Satan works that are manifestly the work of God.
To compare holy men like Padre Pio and Solanus Casey to Herod is to commit the sin against the Holy Spirit.
You lie when you say that Catholics do not give the glory to God.
I notice you don’t answer my question: How DO you explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes? How do YOU explain the thousands of wheelchairs and crutches discarded at Lourdes?
You cling to a rigid, ideological position and shut your eyes to manifest good.
Then why are the saints getting credit for the miracles?
If they are giving anyone credit but God, that person is getting the glory, not God.
Not from dead people supposedly answering prayers.
Any genuine healing can be attributed to God.
Anything else is up for grabs as for the cause, but since there's no Scriptural precedent for*saints* even hearing and answering prayer, then to attribute to them miracles, is grasping at straws.
I find it interesting that when it comes to Lourdes and the claim of miracles with wheelchairs and crutches left behind, Catholics swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
When it comes to Benny Hinn, well,...... enough said. I know the response I'll get there.
Tell me where you get the notion that people who have died are “dead,” that is, dead, dead, dead, dead, inert, unconscious, inactive, defunct, unloving, uncaring, disconnected, etc.
Doesn’t that fly in the face of the gospel, which promises us everlasting life?
I was born and raised Baptist. My mother was a devout as they come and read the Bible daily. She had a picture of Jesus hanging in every room in the house, with the largest one hanging in the front room. On the other side of the room was a huge tapestry of the Last Supper hanging on the wall. She got the tapestry from her mother, and after she passed away it was left to me and it reverently hangs over my couch in the front room. And guess what she was not Catholic and I was not Catholic when it started hanging on my wall.
“I said that the Church—i.e., members of the Church—produced the Scriptures”.
You’re getting smart. Members of the Catholic Church.
The Bible thumpers were not around back then.
SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT
Major offenses that carry a stubborn resistance to the inspirations of the Holy Spirit and a contempt of his gifts. They are despair of one's salvation, envy of another's spiritual good, opposing known truths of faith, obstinacy in sin, presumption of God's mercy, and final impenitence. Because those who sin in this way, resisting grace, do not wish to repent, we say that their sins cannot be forgiven them.
All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.
LOL good zing!
That was a big car, there were a whole bunch of them that rode to the upper room.
Of course the first car was in Genesis when God drove Adam and Eve out of the garden in His Fury.
And HERESY claims them.
Golly; that IS a tough one!!
2 Thessalonians 2:5-11
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Then could you please tell me where I can find the Spittle Detector app?
I've look ALL over for it and it seems very elusive.
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I think I just posted something about that...
HMMMmmm...
So when the Apostles cured the sick and raised the dead, they were doing the works of Satan.
This must be the case, because the Apostles were mere men. By curing the sick and raising the dead, they were claiming to be God. Just as those who say Mary has cured the sick at Lourdes are making Mary into God.
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