Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC
Internal motive-judging
***From the Religion Moderator’s home page
Forms of “making it personal” include mind reading, attributing motive
http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/
It would appear that this entire thread started out as a “making it personal” vanity. It’s probably doomed. Perhaps the best we can hope for is that it will be locked rather than pulled.
....”FR is about truth. It’s our mission. Wouldn’t have it any other way”......
‘Truth’....
When the debate is silenced Truth is suppressed.
“Their lame excuses about challenging what they consider heresies is merely that— lame excuses for aberrant behavior. One can disagree without being disagreeable.”
Notice though that your bigotry is entirely circular.
1) You said that it is wrong for us to declare that something is a heresy, and argued that a Mormon, who is “righteous,” can get into heaven regardless of what they believe. That’s a direct contradiction of the scripture.
2) But now you say that the concept of “heresy” is merely a smoke screen for being “disagreeable” or ugly.
3) But we are “disagreeable” or ugly because we believe that there are heresies.
Do you see the circular nature of your bigotry here?
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One can disagree without being disagreeable. One need only look at the example of Jesus Christ himself
***Oh, I totally agree.
Jesus had VERY harsh words for false teachers of His day.
Matthew 23:33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
John8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
Those who push the heresy that Jesus is not God Himself onto Free Republic would have us speak in soft and fluffy tones when even Jesus didn’t do so. They uphold a standard for FReepers that’s even higher than the standard that God Himself held.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3069049/posts?page=2727#2727
>> Let’s hear your definition
A foolish request given your understanding of my post.
btt...
The truth is the truth and has been true for thousands of years. Modern day self-proclaimed prophets cannot change it.
"Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not."
Excerpt from: Herbert W. Armstrong Library: Beware of False Prophets by Robert E. Fahey:
"Why does God permit false prophets? Why does God allow wolves to have access to His flock? Why doesn't He expose them before they do any harm? He has His reasons! The first and most basic scripture about false prophets explains why. "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul" (Deut. 13:1-3).
(Hey, Doug...doesn't seem like all the Herbert W. Armstrong disciples got your memo that "false prophets" doesn't mean "false prophets")...
A foolish request given your understanding of my post.
How would you even know my understanding? You don’t. It’s just a way to malign another freeper while not furthering the discussion. Such a tactic is hiding behind the skirts of relativism AND the catholic church.
Proceeding from the catholic definition of the word is proper here. A relativistic, undefinable, ephemeral belief system that doesn’t even get posted outwardly is worthless to proceed from, so I won’t.
Right on.
Then do you agree that those would push a false teaching such as Jesus not being God Himself are properly condemned as heretics on Free Republic?
The incivility of these vile elements does nothing for the cause of FreeRepublic, Christianity
***You would accuse Christ of being “incivil” or unChristlike or “doing nothing for the cause of christianity” when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’.
The incivility of these vile elements does nothing for the cause of FreeRepublic, Christianity
***You would accuse Christ of being “incivil” or unChristlike or “doing nothing for the cause of christianity” when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’.
In addition, you would add ‘vile’ to one of the descriptions of Christ’s behavior.
From the vanity:
"They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us."
Doug, based upon the link above describing the UCG "Current Crisis" -- not sure if any of us want to be the "one of us" you reference in this vanity.
(Forgot to add you for ping to this post)
BookMark
Yep. And said comments were directed not at the Samaritans, Gentiles or others which might be considered unorthodox or even cultist in today’s popular fundy forums, but at the corrupt mainstream religious leaders, including those self-appointed, who wished to define the Gospel under their own narrow and egotistical terms.
Why do you allow false teachers to operate openly on Free Republic in defiance of “the truth is the truth”? The simple truth between catholics and protestants is that they all understand that Jesus is God Himself. Does not the promotion of simple antichristian heresy incur the kind of language that Jesus poured on these guys, calling them “vipers” and “wolves in sheep’s clothing” and “sons of their father the devil”????
Then you properly align with Christ when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’. Those who deny that Jesus is God are simply heretics and false teachers.
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