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When is the Rapture ?
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Posted on 12/23/2013 7:16:44 PM PST by Uri’el-2012

Why I believe the Rapture of the Church

will take place between December 25, 2013,

and January 4, 2014

The Lord has been giving me pieces to a puzzle for the last 13 years, leading me to the date for the firstfruits Rapture of the Church. The puzzle ends between December 25, 2013, and January 4, 2014. I very strongly believe that the Rapture will take place on January 3/4, 2014. However, it is possible that the puzzle can end as early as December 25, 2013.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: 2012; antichrist; endtimes; eschatology; prophecy; rapture; theology; tribulation
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; SisterK

I wonder if that Rabi didn’t set the nation of Israel up to actually follow the antichrist.


641 posted on 01/11/2014 1:20:18 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie

The lurkers are reading Romans and are now up to speed on the realities of Yehova’s word.

The Nicean loonies are still stomping their feet and holding to the worship of Tammuz and his mom, Easter.


642 posted on 01/11/2014 1:22:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

Yes, you continue to mock, but I shall remain solidly with the plain words of Yeshua and his apostles. (My Mentors)


643 posted on 01/11/2014 1:24:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; HarleyD; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool
>> I shall remain solidly with the plain words of Yeshua and his apostles.<<

Yeah, not so much. The Holy Spirit through Paul shows you don’t “remain solidly with the plain words of Jesus and His apostles.

Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."

You stumbled at that stumblingstone along with Israel.

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

644 posted on 01/11/2014 1:31:29 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie
Or is it you that is struggling?

Start with Yeshua’s clear words concerning WHO he came for:

Matthew 15:24

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Then recognize that Paul went to established synagogues where these sheep were known to congregate, and where Paul himself had frequently gone to persecute those that had turned to The Way. He went now to re-graft the wild branches back to the natural root.

645 posted on 01/11/2014 1:43:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear; SisterK
I wonder if that Rabi didn’t set the nation of Israel up to actually follow the antichrist.

I'm not sure what your point is.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
646 posted on 01/11/2014 1:48:38 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: CynicalBear; HarleyD; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool
>> “Gal. 2:16, “nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus” <<

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It is not me, but you that keeps going to ‘justification’ by ‘works.’ To attribute that folly to me is a straw argument presented to shore up your nonexistent position.

Yeshua asked that we obey his commandments, and he promised to write them on our hearts, that we would out of love and the strength of faith given by the grace of his Father do so to the end.

I refuse to share your personal stumbling stone, so please do not include me in your dismay.

Those of us that endure to the end in that faith will be justified. This is that narrow way of which Yeshua spoke, and which you struggle to recognize, projecting your struggle upon myself and the others that have found it.

647 posted on 01/11/2014 1:57:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

>> “I also know how to rightly divide the word of truth.” <<

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Apparently not!

Not dividing the word of truth from iniquitous falsehood seems to haunt you.

Dividing the word from itself, rather than from falsehood is the greatest folly of our age.


648 posted on 01/11/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear; HarleyD; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool
>> “Gal. 2:16, “nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus” <<

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Is keeping Yeshua’s words “justification by works?

John 14:

[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
[25] These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
[26] But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

If the spirit that speaks to you is not "bringing all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you," it is not the Holy Spirit!

649 posted on 01/11/2014 2:21:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Elsie
Satan always want us to only use parts of scripture or misquote scripture doesn’t he.

Acts 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Acts 13:46 Both Paul and Barnabas replied courageously, “It was necessary to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we are turning to the Gentiles. 47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have appointed you to be a light for the Gentiles, to bring salvation to the ends of the earth.”

But those who do Satan’s bidding answered just as we have seen here on this thread.

Acts 13:50 But the Jews incited the God-fearing women of high social standing and the prominent men of the city, stirred up persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and threw them out of their region.

Perhaps you might want to listen like Peter did to what he was told.

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

650 posted on 01/11/2014 2:28:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; SisterK
>> I'm not sure what your point is.<<

Look at his prophesy closely. He was not prophesying about the true Messiah.

651 posted on 01/11/2014 2:30:18 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor

Shemitah begins September 2014? Time to leave our gardens fallow?


652 posted on 01/11/2014 2:45:52 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: editor-surveyor
BTW You are holding up magnificently in spite of the pounding.
653 posted on 01/11/2014 2:50:30 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: CynicalBear; Elsie
>> “Satan always want us to only use parts of scripture or misquote scripture doesn’t he” <<

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Yes, your post being a prime example.

The “Gentiles” unto whom he had opened the door were the same to whom Yeshua had come. The lost sheep of the House of Israel had been of great concern to the House of Judah since the rebuilding of the temple in Nehemiah's time

>> “But those who do Satan’s bidding answered just as we have seen here on this thread.” <<

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Yes we see your posts. You pick parts of a verse to post, like just posting the first half of John 14:26 because the main thought in the second clause completely defeated your purpose? Or bringing in Acts 10 when it had nothing to do with Paul's primary mission that he explained in Romans?

654 posted on 01/11/2014 3:04:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SisterK

Take that to its limit and you will be quitting your job too!

Wait until the temple is restored.


655 posted on 01/11/2014 3:06:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SisterK

The “Rightly dividers” will take the pounding when Yeshua returns!

They are who Paul sought that Timothy be aware of. It was the purpose of the entire epistle.


656 posted on 01/11/2014 3:10:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I would love the hours of a year long sabbatical. But I don’t think I would like the pay. Perhaps, like manna on the sixth day, the Lord would give me a double portion this year.

Indeed, I watch for the temple to be restored (I understand all the parts are gathered and it will take 30 days to assemble)...But what I am watching closer is the next Year of Jubilee. 2017?


657 posted on 01/11/2014 3:17:02 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: editor-surveyor

LOL
The poundings here and now don’t count much, do they?


658 posted on 01/11/2014 3:19:25 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: editor-surveyor; Elsie; HarleyD; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool
>>Yes we see your posts. You pick parts of a verse to post, like just posting the first half of John 14:26 because the main thought in the second clause completely defeated your purpose? Or bringing in Acts 10 when it had nothing to do with Paul's primary mission that he explained in Romans?<<

I do feel sorry for you. John 14:26 reads thusly.

John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

I highlighted the and for you. That connotes a different thing than the first part of the sentence.

Acts 10 shows how wrong Peter and you are about the gospel only going to the physical Jews.

Your lack of understanding (or is it refusal?) of scripture is astounding.

659 posted on 01/11/2014 3:41:56 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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U-2012> I'm not sure what your point is.

Look at his prophesy closely. He was not prophesying about the true Messiah.

I have no clue what you are talking about.

Could you be specific.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
660 posted on 01/11/2014 5:24:42 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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