Kid narrow it back down to Jacob...
I didnt ask for a sermon or your personal interpretation...
I asked you Please provide us with the corresponding scriptures from the Christian Bible for your comments on Jacob and his family..
after you had posted to MHGinTN
Your comments again malign a dignitary, our elder, Jacob, who is in the Hebrews hall of fame. You accuse him of conniving and deceiving completely blind to the fact, the biblical fact that Jacob was chosen by God, loved by God, and the rightful heir of Isaacs blessing. Jacob did Gods will by obeying his mother Rebekah. God hated Esau and said he could not inherit. You seem troubled by that and complain that Jacob lied to his brother Esau, who was the seed of the serpent and would have exterminated the seed of the woman if Isaacs lack of spiritual vision had persisted. Rebekah knew the difference. Balaam did not and it cost him his life. He kept trying to curse Jacob but ended up prophetically blessing him (Numbers 24).
Jacob WAS a conniver and a deceiver..even God said he was..
BTW Jacob means supplanter according to the Bible
BTW as for the obeying his Mommy bit...
Genesis 27:12, 13 Jacob tells his Mom that his father will know that he is not Esau and that Jacob has deceived him and that he will be cursed. cursed by whom ??? God...God would curse Jacob for his deception..
Rebekah agrees that Jacob will be doing something evil and would be cursed but urges him to deceive his father after all and cajoles him with a halfhanded “Upon me be your curse” knowing full well that her son Jacob would not be excused from the evil he was going to do to his brother ans his father ..
Remember back in verse 28 of Chapter 25 God tells us that Isaac loved Esau because Isaac got to eat the meat Esau hunted for but Rebekah loved Jacob..
So at the time that Jacob connives with his mother against his father and his own brother and is prepared to deceive Isaac his father in order to steal the blessing legally due his older brother, Isaac the man of God loved Esau but not Jacob..
It seems Isaac knew that Jacob was a lowlife..
Remember it wasn’t Esaus idea to give Jacob his birthright..
Jacob demanded it of his brother..
He refused to feed his hungry brother who was the one to usually provide food for the family..
until Esau gave Jacob something that he was not entitled to have..Esaus birthright as the oldest son..thats not a virtuous move on Jacobs part..that evil conniving, deceiving, just like his ambitious mother, Rebekah..
Anyhoo kid read the Bible for yaself and then get back to us..
asnd I’ll teach ya some more about whats between the covers of the Christian Bible..
as usual this lesson is free to the po lil ol needy grasshopper..
God uses Jacob and Israel, both names, interchangeably to refer to Klal Israel, all Israel, the man as well. It is not true that Jacob changed his name to Israel and was no longer Jacob.
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While it is correct that Jacob was not the one to change his name from Jacob it was changed for all time to Israel by God..
and He asked him “What is your name?” and he said “Jacob” And He said “Your name will NO LONGER be Jacob but Israel because as a prince you have power with God and with man and you have3 prevailed. Genesis 32:27, 28
and so on..