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To: DouglasKC

:: Is it your position that the death of Christ automatically guarantees salvation to everyone? ::

Well, yes - THROUGH FAITH. I continue to be perplexed why you leave out Faith (the work of the Holy Spirit).

Isn’t that what God said? Faith in the works and death of Christ (...whoever believes in Him...) provides salvation, the propitiation of sin; “Behold, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world”.

All mankind has salvation...by grace, through Faith.

Again, why do you work so hard to achieve what Christ has already done for you?


38 posted on 12/12/2013 1:57:11 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Faith, in the Christian sense, is verb, not a noun.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

All mankind has salvation...by grace, through Faith.


Well, all mankind that actually accepts the free gift. I’ve talked to plenty that actively refuse. According to scripture, they are, in fact, not saved.


45 posted on 12/12/2013 2:02:47 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Well, yes - THROUGH FAITH. I continue to be perplexed why you leave out Faith (the work of the Holy Spirit). Isn’t that what God said? Faith in the works and death of Christ (...whoever believes in Him...) provides salvation, the propitiation of sin; “Behold, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world”. All mankind has salvation...by grace, through Faith.

Okay, so by faith you mean they have to know and believe in Christ. Do they need the indwelling of the holy spirit?

Again, why do you work so hard to achieve what Christ has already done for you?

Kind of a loaded question don't you think? :-)

Kind of like "Why are you still beating your wife?"

We don't work to "achieve" salvation at all. We respond to the spirit of God in love and obedience.

52 posted on 12/12/2013 2:09:40 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
All mankind has salvation...by grace, through Faith.

Faith requires action. All of the disciples believed that with God they could walk on water. But Peter was the only one who demonstrated it. All believed. Only one had faith.

387 posted on 12/22/2013 7:25:38 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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