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Beyond Today ^ | 2013 | Various

Posted on 12/12/2013 12:59:05 PM PST by DouglasKC

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To: editor-surveyor
Matthew 7:

[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."


I wonder how many actually have found the true meaning of that verse ?
How many know what Jesus Christ was speaking about him self of being that straight gate, as in ? I am the way, the truth and the life, no man can come unto the father but my me ?
As is the narrow way, the straight gate, as in ?
The only way of Salvation ?
How many realize that Jesus was talking about him self there in stead of some religious form way of living ?
341 posted on 12/16/2013 3:35:59 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: DouglasKC
" The bible is obsessed with sin. "

And the bible has a cure for sin, a way of escape from God's just judgement from that sin, that is Jesus Christ.
342 posted on 12/16/2013 3:38:43 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Care to address the “few there be that find it” clause?


343 posted on 12/16/2013 3:49:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
" Care to address the “few there be that find it” clause? "

Because of religion and unbelief ? and because religion and unbelief has blinded and deceived them ?
344 posted on 12/16/2013 3:55:51 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes, “Churchianity” in a word.

Far too many believe that their church can save them.


345 posted on 12/16/2013 4:00:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
BINGO, that's a start, there is more.
Bottom line ?
No if's and's or but's, Jesus Christ IS the only way to be saved and the only way of Salvation, sorry the Pope don't count.
346 posted on 12/16/2013 4:04:05 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: editor-surveyor
Far too many believe that their church can save them.

Others believe that jumping through the right hoops will.

347 posted on 12/16/2013 7:46:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

>> “Others believe that jumping through the right hoops will.” <<

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You mean that great big giant ‘Grace’ hoop?


348 posted on 12/16/2013 8:11:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You mean that great big giant ‘Grace’ hoop?

EVERYONE agrees we are saved by 'grace'

The way I see it; the Catholics and the PROTESTants disagree on how that grace is received.


OTOH, after we finally GET the 'grace', there seems to be a GREAT divide on how we are 'kept'.

Oh so many are posting Scripture that seems to indicate that we are kept by works; while others are posting Scripture that seems to indicate that we are kept by 'grace' as well.

350 posted on 12/17/2013 4:30:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

(349 had a typo)


351 posted on 12/17/2013 4:32:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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>> “EVERYONE agrees we are saved by ‘grace’” <<

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Except Yehova’s word doesn’t say that.

It says that we will be saved through faith, and that faith is enabled by the Grace of Yehova.

Nowhere does the Word say that Grace saves us.


352 posted on 12/17/2013 8:07:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nowhere does the Word say that Grace saves us.

HMMMmmm...

353 posted on 12/17/2013 8:32:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

354 posted on 12/17/2013 8:35:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That verse says that we are to be saved through faith, not Grace.

Grace is what permitted us to receive the faith that will save us.


355 posted on 12/17/2013 9:15:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
That verse says that we are to be saved through faith, not Grace.

I daresay that one of us needs a new seeing eye dog!

356 posted on 12/17/2013 3:23:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Read it with your dog then. It says through faith.


357 posted on 12/17/2013 4:57:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Read it with your dog then. It says through faith.

Read it without your dog. It says by grace.


Now, with the clock run out and the score tied; we'll go into overtime.

358 posted on 12/17/2013 6:54:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The grace is Yehova giving us faith. The faith is what allows us to persevere to the end, resulting in salvation.

If your faith fails to endure to the end, there is no salvation.


359 posted on 12/17/2013 7:05:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; MHGinTN
Jacob's name comes from the event where he followed his twin brother Esau. Jacob was perfect while Esau was cunning. God loved Jacob but hated Esau. He had both names, Jacob and Israel in Genesis while he lived. Your maligning of Jacob cometh not of Him who calls.
360 posted on 12/17/2013 9:50:28 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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