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To: boatbums
"So, contrary to your opinion, there WILL still be a chance for unbelievers to come to Christ. It won't be easy on them, but they can come to Him before they die. After someone dies, then it is too late to be saved."

And all those people that have lived and died and never heard of Christ? Where do you put them?

"Angels are not "people", never were, never will be. They are a separate class of created beings."

You have no prophets or revelation that would tell you such a thing.

"You don't understand grace, then. We can KNOW we HAVE eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ."

And that's what the people Jesus spoke of in Luke 13 thought too. But when they found out they didn't there was weeping and gnashing of teeth. Same in Matt 7. Very clear warnings.

Another warning in 2 Tim 3. This is one of the most telling warnings.
2 Tim 3:
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

He's talking about our time.

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

They have a form of godliness. A type of godliness, but it's not real. You can see it every where... no revelation today. They appear godly but they actually deny the power of God through their action and doctrine.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Jannes and Jambres were priests in Pharaoh's court and they denied the true prophet. "So do these also".

In the last days, our days, "godly" has to refer to "Christianity". No one else has a "form" of godliness as Paul would relate to.

Back to a question I've asked several times now; did God choose the list of books that are that are currently available in the Bible to be in the Bible?
202 posted on 12/08/2013 3:14:40 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
And all those people that have lived and died and never heard of Christ? Where do you put them?

Will not the God of all the earth do what is right? "For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. (Deut. 10:17).

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. (Romans 1:18-25)

God is a rewarder of all those who diligently seek Him so there will be NO ONE who dies without having the chance to know the truth. Even before Jesus was born, there were people who knew and worshiped the one, true God and, just as we look back on the sacrifice Christ made for us through the grace of God, so they looked forward to the time when the Messiah would come ALSO by the grace of God.

You have no prophets or revelation that would tell you such a thing.

We have the revelation in the Bible that tells us all about when the angels were created, their purpose, their roles and what happened to those who rebelled against God. Angels aren't people, people don't become angels.

They have a form of godliness. A type of godliness, but it's not real. You can see it every where... no revelation today. They appear godly but they actually deny the power of God through their action and doctrine.

No doubt there are people that fit this prediction of the world today and we see examples of it pretty regularly on these religion threads. The form of godliness that Scripture talks about which is deadly is that which "denies the power thereof". I don't deny the power of the Holy Spirit in my life nor do I reject the grace of God that brings salvation by assuming that my good deeds merit my salvation. Those people weeping and gnashing their teeth will be those who thought belonging to a religion or going to church or being good or giving tithes, etc., were what brought them to godliness while they rejected the grace of God that He lavishes on us when we trust in Him. Faith is what pleases God - without it, NO ONE can please Him.

Back to a question I've asked several times now; did God choose the list of books that are that are currently available in the Bible to be in the Bible?

And I've already answered this several times now. Maybe if you read what I wrote instead of skipping to the parts you want to haggle over repeatedly, you wouldn't keep asking it. What are you expecting to hear that I'm not saying?

205 posted on 12/08/2013 9:34:55 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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