[StormPrepper]

[stormprepper]"Paul's letters were directed to specific people in the Church in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative."

[Colofornian]"The Apostles creed was directed to specific people in the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative -- given by the authorized leaders within the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints."

Paul was a real Apostle of Jesus Christ, who prophesied, and was directed by the Lord Himself. And you compare that with some ambiguous writing that shows up almost 400 years after the Apostles. Paul was authorized by the Lord face to face. 400 years after Paul men were authorized by other men only. There's no comparison.

"And, at least in the Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie's mind,"

Please explain your mind reading skills and techniques.

"So yes, at least from a Mormon point of view"

You have never been a Mormon. I have been a Mormon for 30 years. How do you have the slightest clue what a Mormon view point is? Especially when you're told you're wrong and corrected, you won't accept the correction.

"as testified to by Deseret Book publishers...owned by the Mormon church"

Deseret Book

"it was a FORMAL, OFFICIAL rendering"

It is not published by the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Period. My scriptures are, my Sunday school manual is, Bruce R. McConkie's "Mormon Doctrine" is not. Are you able to understand the difference? The Presidency of the Church did have a vested interest in making sure it was accurate, mainly because of the title Elder McConkie was putting on it. But it is not an official Church publication. The Ensign magazine is an official publication, "Mormon Doctrine" is not.

The First Presidency gave Elder McConkie input to help him with this personal book release.

Official publications by the Church are printed regardless of sales numbers. "Mormon Doctrine" was printed and reprinted based on sales numbers. Which is why it's no longer printed. Deseret Book decided to no longer print it because sales figures were low.

[Tennessee Nana]

Stormy speaking of the false prophet, Joey Smith...

Your own words tweaked a bit to give them better context

“Paul was a real Apostle of Jesus Christ, who prophesied, and was directed by the Lord Himself. And you compare that with some ambiguous writing that shows up almost 1800 years after the Apostles. Paul was authorized by the Lord face to face. 1800 years after Paul men were authorized by other men only. There’s no comparison.”

[Elsie]

Please explain your mind reading skills and techniques.

My technique is to find actual data published by the great LDS, Inc. and re-post it here.

Others get to read it and make up their minds.

[Elsie]

I have been a Mormon for 30 years. How do you have the slightest clue what a Mormon view point is? Especially when you're told you're wrong and corrected, you won't accept the correction.

Physician... heal thyself!

[Elsie]

Especially when you're told you're wrong and corrected, you won't accept the correction.

That because your 'telling' is incorrect.

We actually SHOW everyone where you are wrong!

[Tennessee Nana]

I have been a Mormon for 30 years
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Kid youre a piker...

Most of us have either been BIC or learned about Mormonism 50+ years ago...

In my own case I learned about Joey Smith and his Mohammad yearnings 45 years ago...

and I wouldnt boast about a close relationship to the criminal atheist and child rapist Joey Smith if I was you...

[Colofornian]

And you compare that with some ambiguous writing that shows up almost 400 years after the Apostles. Paul was authorized by the Lord face to face. 400 years after Paul men were authorized by other men only. There's no comparison.

Maybe you're right.

After all, McConkie called himself an "apostle." But the Lord NEVER authorized him face to face...and that was 1900+ years later! And, given that so many Mormons disagree with the Mormon "apostle," I guess that's even worse than "ambiguous writing!"

You have never been a Mormon. I have been a Mormon for 30 years. How do you have the slightest clue what a Mormon view point is?

Perhaps you're now 2-for-2 here. After all, Mormon leaders/general authorities tend to be horrible communicators. How could they possibly convey the Mormon worldview to the world? (They should just give it up & tell their mishies to stay home!)

It is not published by the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Period.

(It was)

[boatbums]

Paul was a real Apostle of Jesus Christ, who prophesied, and was directed by the Lord Himself. And you compare that with some ambiguous writing that shows up almost 400 years after the Apostles. Paul was authorized by the Lord face to face. 400 years after Paul men were authorized by other men only. There's no comparison.

I agree with you that what church "leaders" put together to summarize what the Christian faith's basic doctrines were four hundred years after the last Apostle died does not qualify as authoritative as Holy Scripture, but neither do writings eighteen-hundred years later by some guy who claimed to have a vision - a con-man, womanizer, adulterer and scofflaw from the law. Where is Joseph Smith, Jr.'s authority? Why are his contentions - some that blatantly contradict the Bible - to be held in the same esteem as Divinely-inspired Scripture? By what authority do your "Apostles" claim to hold authority over all of Christendom? Every statement of the "Apostles' Creed" can be proved by Scripture, though it is not meant to be an exhaustive list of the tenets of the Christian faith. Nonetheless, it's early use by believers and early church fathers attest to its genuineness and purpose to the early believers. Can the same be said for Mormonism's creeds or doctrinal statements?