Posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer
There are 38 questions + a few bonus questions. I have split them into two separate posts of 20 and 18 + bonus questions. In case you missed it, here is the link to Part 1. Are you ready?
21. Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?
22. Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?
23. Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?
24. How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?
25. If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?
26. How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?
27. If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?
28. If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?
29. If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?
30. If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?
31. The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?
32. If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?
33. Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible "unity" that exists only in the hearts of believers?
34. If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?
35. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you." What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church's leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?
36. The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?
37. How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?
38. What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?
Where does the Bible . . .
. . . say God created the world/universe out of nothing?
. . . say salvation is attainable through faith alone?
. . . tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?
. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?
. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?
. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?
. . . tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?
. . . inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?
. . . who wrote the Book of Acts?
. . . tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?
. . . .tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn't infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?
. . . that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?
. . . that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?
. . . tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?
Just as there can be only one true God,
there can only be one authority from Him that He revealed to us as authoritative.
If there are multiple authorities, invariably, they’ll be in conflict, and at least one of them is wrong.
No, you didn’t list it, the one listed first is the one that Satan chartered through Constantine to crush The Way.
Debate is restricted on Religion Forum threads labeled "caucus" "ecumenical" "prayer" or "devotion."
If contentious challenges of your beliefs are not your cup of tea then you should ignore "open" RF threads altogether and instead read/post to one of the other types.
Also, one should expect opposing views of what is truth on "open" Religion Forum threads. For example, one poster may say with true, sincere belief that "Catholics worship Mary" whereas another poster may with true, sincere belief declare that belief to be an abominable lie from the pit of hell.
Abstention to prevent conception is.
OK. Serious question here.
How is all that related to the comment that only the Catholic church has the authority tot determine what is Scripture and what is not?
Why do you care?
Evidently neither have our FR Catholics as well!!
Whiners gotta whine.
like the Magisterium?
I just wonder how you get away with it?
Perhaps because there is no other EVIDENCE posted that shows her info to be wrong; only ACCUSATIONS that it is.
I am unaware of what prominent Catholic teaches this.
Really...Is this prominent enough??? Your popes teach this...
Pope Leo XIII, Adjutricem populi, 5 September 1895: O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee. None, O Mother of God, obtains salvation except through thee. None receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.
Mary is given authority over the Earth...She provides salvation, hope, love, healing and every thing else that is attributed to God...
She does? It appears that I am going wrong when I say (Night Office of the Liturgy of the Hours, every night) "Protect us, Lord, as we stay awake; watch over us as we sleep, that awake we may keep watch with Christ, and asleep, rest in his peace."
No you just haven't gotten to that part yet...Nah...I believe you are just playing ignorant...More popish stuff...
Pope Pius XII, Letter to Cardinal Maglione of 15 April 1940: Since as St. Bernard declares, "It is the will of God that we obtain all favors through Mary," let everyone hasten to have recourse to Mary...So powerful indeed is the Blessed Virgin with God and His only-Begotten Son that, as Dante writes, "anyone who desires His help and fails to have recourse to Mary is like one trying to fly without wings."
Perhaps I go wrong when I recite the Gospel Canticle: "Lord, now let your servant go in peace; your word has been fulfilled: my own eyes have seen the salvation which you prepared in the sight of every people:
You must be one of them Catholic Clerics...
Canticle
1. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) a nonmetrical hymn, derived from the Bible and used in the liturgy of certain Christian churches
Apparently, I can't say this as it denies Mary's role. I am having difficulty finding any Mary Worship in Ordinary Time; I can't find it in Advent either. Damn, this doctrine of Mary as redeemer is hard to find
Well that's odd isn't it...A non Catholic can find it all over the place...
Pope Pius XI, Address of 15 August 1933: God alone gives grace according to the measure which in His infinite wisdom He foresees. But although that grace comes from God, it is given through Mary, our Advocate and Mediatrix, since motherly affection on the one hand find response in childlike devotion on the other.
Name one...
At least they're no longer burning people at the stake for simple possession... right?
The only authority that's been revealed from God is His scriptures...
More like making Rome to be as God.
I have told you the truth, if you choose to deny or ignore it, that is on you. I will say a Rosary for you tonight.
Do you understand what a rhetorical question is?
Exactly. Question 2 of the Westminster Catechism.
Is THIS one?
Catholics have a different definition of truth than Christians do.
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