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Former religious skeptic believes she talked to God during the 9 minutes she was dead
The London Daily Mail ^ | October 26, 2013 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 10/27/2013 4:21:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An Oklahoma woman says she's a firm believer in God after meeting him during the nine minutes she died in 2009.

Crystal McVea is a 36-year-old married school teacher and mother of four who didn't quite believe in God for most of her life.

At the age of three, McVea started to be sexually abused by her drug and alcohol-addicted step father and that abuse continued by him and others until the age of 12.

Those experiences made her second guess from a young age whether or not God existed, and if he did, whether he loved her.

'I saw a lot of things that children shouldn't see,' she told WFAA. 'I always believed that God had abandoned me, that he didn't save me, that he didn't love me and I questioned if he was real.'

Then, when she was a teenager, she had an abortion. A choice she believed cemented her position as a sinner.

'After that abortion I thought, "I've done it now - if he was real, he could never love me now,"' she told The Blaze.

In December 2009, McVea was taken to the hospital to be treated for pancreatitis when she was accidentally overdosed on pain medication.

The last thing McVea remembers is being given the drugs and falling asleep. For the next nine minutes, doctors struggled to revive her as her heart stopped beating.

McVea says she was in a more peaceful place. After closing her eyes in the hospital, the next thing she remembers is waking up in heaven.

'I was standing in the most gorgeous light and instantly I recognized where I was. I knew who I was, I knew where I was...' she recalls.

In heaven, time seemed to stand still....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Science; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: abortion; afterlife; atheism; faith; heaven; lifeafterdeath; nde; ndes; neardeathexperience
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would love to set down and have a long talk with her.

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Isa 6:1 - In the year that King Uzziah died I then saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and His train filled the temple.
2 - Above it stood the seraphs; each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.
3 - And one cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of Hosts; the whole earth full of His glory.
4 - And the doorposts moved at the voice of the one who cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 - Then I said, Woe is me! For I am undone; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of Hosts.
6 - Then one of the seraphs flew to me, having a live coal in his hand, snatched with tongs from the altar.
7 - And he laid it on my mouth and said, Lo, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged.
8 - And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then I said, Here am I; send me!

61 posted on 10/27/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Lady Heron

Well !! It was an Audie Murphy movie.


62 posted on 10/27/2013 9:00:06 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Expect to see a lot more of that under Obamacare, with way fewer revivals.


63 posted on 10/27/2013 9:03:03 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Lady Heron
To Hell and Back
by Maurice Rawlings
64 posted on 10/27/2013 9:38:54 AM PDT by GBA (Ezekiel ch. 7, verses 1-14...our consequences?)
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To: Lady Heron
If you've not read it before, here's the story that got to me and puts some cracks in the stonework around my heart:

My Descent Into Death: A Second Chance at Life
by Howard Storm

Even hardcore atheist college professors get a second chance.

65 posted on 10/27/2013 9:44:35 AM PDT by GBA (Ezekiel ch. 7, verses 1-14...our consequences?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reversing Death In The Emergency Room: Doctors Detail Frontline Of Resuscitation Science
66 posted on 10/27/2013 9:53:31 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: carlo3b
I was never much of a religious man, and still am not but I am a believer, and nothing will ever change that.. EVER!

Religion is not important. Having a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus is!

67 posted on 10/27/2013 10:09:28 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Netz
I am not buying this woman's story because she has a history of mental problems or disorders. Now, take a qualified physician or rationalist, scientist. If hey tell the same story then...I'm in.

People believe because they want to, not because of the level of proof.

That topic is addressed in Scripture, by Jesus in this account.

Luke 16:19-31 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.

And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house— for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’

But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’

No amount of miracles will convince someone if they are not willing to believe. There were plenty of people in Jesus' day who saw Him heal people and raise others from the dead and they still didn't believe.

So, tell me, if someone who you consider *reputable* testifies this is the truth, will you become a believer?

68 posted on 10/27/2013 10:21:13 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anything is possible with God! I like the story of this priest: http://catholicfaithdefender.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/a-priest-who-saw-heaven-hell-and-purgatory-the-death-experience-of-father-jose-maniyangat/

who is spoken about during this homily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubjToeIOww8
69 posted on 10/27/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is the kid that died and came back, basis of the book, which also confirms scripture, “Heaven is for Real”.


70 posted on 10/27/2013 10:40:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Netz

Now, take a qualified physician or rationalist, scientist. If they tell the same story then...I’m in.


And the rational scientist is telling us the truth about global warming? A qualified physician knows everything? A rationalist knows the truth?

Truth is not that easy. It costs a lot to get to the truth of a matter.


71 posted on 10/27/2013 10:46:41 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Pollster1
It must be frustrating to put that much work into destroying a soul and then lose because God puts 9 minutes into saving her.

So she was allowed to suffer as an innocent child for 10 years........Doesn't sound fair to me.

72 posted on 10/27/2013 10:51:25 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Make sure you have removed the kleenex from your pockets before doing laundry)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. There are many reports of near-death experiences. Some of the most interesting are by children.


73 posted on 10/27/2013 12:23:05 PM PDT by zot
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To: metmom

It is not enough just to believe, there needs to be some kind of proof. This is an ancient argument.


74 posted on 10/27/2013 1:00:32 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Cowgirl

Thank you for sharing that story, and I have prayed for healing for Cassandra. Bless you.


75 posted on 10/27/2013 1:01:40 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Viennacon
There is perhaps work we would like to do in service to the Lord, before departing.

True, and that is a good thing. There are things I strive for, and want to do, but if God comes for me before I finish typing this post, then I will sing praises in heaven and thank Him for his plan.

Forgive me if my reply sounded critical. I don't like critical people for criticism sake. I based my reply on what you said: Although I believe in God, I have a few things that need doing here before I leave.

It is just that we are not ones to say to God "not yet." The Bible makes that very clear. That is up to Him.

I myself have to be reminded by things in my life that this journey is not by my design. Believe me, if I was the real scriptwriter of this movie called "The Life of SkyPilot" - then I would have chosen that some chapters would not have been written, and I would have composed others quite differently.

I was contemplating the Lord's prayer, where Jesus taught us how to pray. Matthew 6:10 says: "Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

His will, not mine. I must confess that many, many times, I prayed for my will to be done, not His. That was foolish of me, but gently, He told me so, and comforted me.

"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."Revelation 22:20

76 posted on 10/27/2013 1:11:49 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a child I was very ill. One particular night I was especially bad, and I remember seeing a brilliant light- but instead of feeling peace and joy it frightened me.
My mother told me I cried out ‘It’s too big!’ ‘The light’s too big’.
I’ve come to believe that the light I saw was what NDE people see, but why did it frighten me?

I was an innocent child. I couldn’t have been headed for purgatory.


77 posted on 10/27/2013 1:13:44 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Netz

Well, dare God to prove Himself to you.


78 posted on 10/27/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doctors at a local hospital had so many patients who recovered from resus that recalled a similar experience - that of leaving their body and rising up and looking down upon the medical scene - to try to answer their curiosity, on top of the one of the cabinets the staff painted a message that would be visible only from above. They asked the patients afterwards if any recalled seeing the message while they were aloft (if you pardon the expression) - but none did. Not that that proves anything, just sayin’.


79 posted on 10/27/2013 1:38:48 PM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Netz

My grandmother, born in 1890, didn’t finish the 8th grade. She knew nothing about what others claimed. She calmly explained what she had “seen”, just before daylight that morning. She named the family members who had died before her that she saw...and didn’t see. She spoke of a bright light, beautiful music, and the sweetest smelling flowers she’d ever seen.....and more.

It was sometime later that “life after death” experiences were spoken about. I believe what she had was a near death experience.

She had been everything but peaceful before that morning. She wasn’t cooperative with us or the hospital staff and seemed mad at the world. Something changed her. I believe she thought she saw into Heaven and it made a difference in how she spent her last three months.


80 posted on 10/27/2013 1:47:49 PM PDT by jch10 ("Normandy was closed when we got there too!")
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