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To: Conservaliberty

So let’s do a Catholic satire of the chubby Martin Luther nailing his theses onto the Wittenburg church door after which he was arrested and placed on a Diet of Worms.

Do we really want to go there?


2 posted on 10/20/2013 8:51:25 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

The Colts are about to beat Manning and the Broncos.

Thus we know there is no God.

(Do I need a winkie or something here?)


5 posted on 10/20/2013 9:05:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: elcid1970

elcid. I’m not a Catholic. But I have been a big admirer of the Church as it has stood for hard biblical principles when a lot of its protestant allies were pretty wimpy. Although I do not believe he was selected as God’s representative on Earth, I do believe the Pope has a huge role as the most prominent spokesman for Christianity in the world. No close second.

Obviously, I’m not guided by having to think he is somehow specially chosen by God as God’s personal leader of all Christians. I evaluate him as a man who won a very important election and then by who he becomes as a leader. (Caveat, I do believe he is chosen by God in the Pauline sense that God raises up and destroys nations and leaders. But that does not mean God necessarily approves of each and all of them.)

The video seems to me a valid, if biting, criticism of Francis’ performance as a leader so far. He’s either very sloppy or he is working to pull the Church away from rather clear scripture. The later would be consistent with the odd way he came to power—suggesting something like a coup in the Vatican. In his actions, IMO, he has undermined the entire Christian faith—Christians cannot deny scripture and have much left and he is tiptoeing very close to that line.

That’s from a Christian who loves my Catholic friends, admired Benedict very much as a great leader, and expects to meet many Catholics in New Jerusalem.

Criticism from the people who love you should sometimes be listened to.


9 posted on 10/20/2013 9:31:33 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: elcid1970

So let’s do a Catholic satire of the chubby Martin Luther nailing his theses onto the Wittenburg church door after which he was arrested and placed on a Diet of Worms.

Do we really want to go there?


If you would like to, you are more than welcome. It sounds like it might be rather poor quality, but that’s a matter of opinion.

I won’t be offended.


10 posted on 10/20/2013 9:32:35 PM PDT by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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To: elcid1970

That would probably at least result in more meaningful Roman Catholic - Protestant dialogue than in the last 4 centuries or so...

I don’t want to be too hard on Francis. He’s trying to make nice. He verges on evangelical attitudes at times. He looks like he is trying to find a living way around a lot of dead bones, and even if it is a bumble it is better than nothing.

You know what I frankly think of the video though. It sounds like Protestants trying to out-Catholic Catholics. That’s a Luther problem. Whatever the later Calvin’s faults, and he had some significant ones, that wasn’t among them.


12 posted on 10/20/2013 10:25:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: elcid1970

He was pretty skinny at that point. For chubby look to after his marriage to Katherine, who must have been a good cook.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 5:42:41 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: elcid1970

Go ahead. Ping me when you are finished.


32 posted on 10/24/2014 9:46:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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