Posted on 10/07/2013 5:36:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Meet "Kosher Frank"
This story needs no commentary because it speaks for itself. Jorge Bergoglio is not a Catholic nor a Pope - but an apostate. What we are seeing here are the next steps in the amalgamation of all religions into one, the prelude to the Antichrist.
[Taken from Vatican Insider, 9/29/13. Coloring added for emphasis.] [But no coloring on FR]
"Pope Francis and Rabbi Skorka make history in the Vatican" by Gerard O'Connell, Rome
... “We hold to different traditions, but we are creating a dialogue that has not existed for centuries. Both of us believe that God has something to do with our friendship and with what we are doing. There are too many coincidences for it all to be mere chance”, said Skorka, 63, who is Rector of the Latin American Rabbinic Seminary. “We come together without burying our identities. I spoke to him about evangelization, and he stated emphatically that the Catholic Church cannot engage in proselytism”, he said.
“We are not looking for a photo opportunity, but we want what we are doing to trigger a re-thinking about things. Ours is not a relation of ‘tea and sympathy’; that is not my way, and it is not Bergoglio’s way. We want to move ahead by actions, we must advance by building bridges, through a living dialogue; not a dialogue of words, but a dialogue of actions that reflect our commitment”, he stated.
What's with the delay? The poor old atheist editor is 89 years old; and the Pope's Jewish guest in Casa de Marta, even though a "young" 63 has this to say about his host: "I eat with him at breakfast, lunch and dinner every day. He cares for me, and controls everything regarding my food to makes sure it is all kosher, and according to my religious tradition. These are festive days, and I have to say certain prayers at meals and, I expand the last prayer and translate it. He accompanies me together with the others at table -his secretaries and a bishop, and they all say ‘Amen’ at the end”, the Rabbi said.
The pope is not being charitable (in the true sense of the word) to either the atheist or the Rabbi.
I repeat. He has absolutely no desire to convert anyone to Catholicism!
Is there a posting of the interview on the Vatican website?
Psst! The Oath Against Modernism is not on the Vatican website!
“Is there a posting of the interview on the Vatican website?”
Does there have to be?
“Psst! The Oath Against Modernism is not on the Vatican website!”
Does it have to be when it is no longer required? This is at the Vatican website:
"'To open oneself to modernity is a duty.' Pope Francis
Seriously, somebody needs to put a muzzle on this Jesuit Gone Wild until they can medicate his bipolar personality. One minute he's telling us that "When we do not profess Jesus Christ, the saying of Léon Bloy comes to mind: 'Anyone who does not pray to the Lord prays to the devil,'" the pope added, quoting the famous French novelist.
"When we do not profess Jesus Christ, we profess the worldliness of the devil, a demonic worldliness," he said.
and the next thing he's doing is stating, " I give a thought, too, to the dear Muslim immigrants that are beginning the fast of Ramadan, with best wishes for abundant spiritual fruits."
“What do mean by The Oath Against Modernism is no longer required?”
I mean that it is no longer required by the Church for ordination or incardination.
“Seriously, somebody needs to put a muzzle on this Jesuit Gone Wild until they can medicate his bipolar personality.”
I think weak minded or stupid individuals are having issues dealing with him. He also has a tendency to say things but not in the most complete fashion so that he is easily taken out of context. I have not suffered in the least - except for the fact that I have to repeatedly explain his comments to those who are too stupid or lazy to do any research and see his other or fuller comments.
And I think only weak minded or stupid individuals do not see the duplicity of the current Bishop of Rome who openly embraces Modernism. I have not take one thing out of context; I challenge you to prove otherwise.
“And I think only weak minded or stupid individuals do not see the duplicity of the current Bishop of Rome who openly embraces Modernism.”
Your opinions simply don’t matter. He’s the pope and there’s nothing you or anyone else can do about it. I always wonder why people get so worked up over a man who will be dead in a few short years and who won’t change a single Catholic dogma in the meantime.
“I have not take one thing out of context; I challenge you to prove otherwise.”
No, I challenge you to prove your understanding is correct when I posted evidence to the contrary.
This is becoming quite hilarious! Kindly READ the original post of this thread. Once you do, you will note that the Pope is who is depicted as shunning the word "proselyte" or "proselytize". I couldn't care less what the World Council of Churches or the Greek government, for that matter - though it is noted how they failed to define what they even meant by the word they claim to ban people from doing - deems "appropriate", the point of discussion is that there IS no real difference in "evangelizing" or "proselytizing" - except in the minds of those too concerned over appearances than doing the will of God. Getta grip!
I’ll trade my recipe for the Curried Butternut Squash Soup I fixed for dinner tonight for your recipe for nice German Potato Soup. :o)
“Once you do, you will note that the Pope is who is depicted as shunning the word “proselyte” or “proselytize”.”
I already knew this. When did you finally figure it out? Oh, that’s right, you probably already knew it. I did. What’s your point.
“... the point of discussion is that there IS no real difference in “evangelizing” or “proselytizing””
And I showed that that is not the case. You don’t have to like it. It’s just true.
” - except in the minds of those too concerned over appearances than doing the will of God. Getta grip!”
Already had one. Again, I posted clear examples of people saying the words were not the same thing in a certain context. I was right all along. So was the pope. Get used to it.
It’s good advice.
I am very much indebted to my son, a priest, who a number of times has offered this quote to me for my reflection. It has helped me to make efforts to think much before speaking much and to be a respecter of persons. (1Peter 2:17 ,1Peter 5:15).
I also have seen my son apply this rule himself and I believe that it has helped him to be a respected and loved pastor.
This is in contrary to what you, boatbums have said before -- that you believed that Jews would be saved as per the Old Covenant. But I guess you changed your doctrine. ok
Ditto for you metmom — didn’t you have a large fight last year about Jews being saved? Well, that’s your choice to change your doctrine.
Nope...nothing changed including your inability to quote other's comments properly and in context. Here IS what I said. Those Jews prior to the coming of Christ, the Messiah, had faith that God would send Him and that he would bear the sins of the people. They looked FORWARD to the coming of the savior as we Christians look BACKWARD to Jesus Christ. It is STILL by grace through faith. The feast days and sacrifices were done as demonstrations of that faith and the blood sacrifices were as a "covering" for sins until THE Lamb of God came to take away the sins of the world. Once Jesus came and died, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. His one time payment sanctified FOREVER those who receive Him as Savior. Any more questions?
One more thought on this, since you neglected to use my actual comment, which was:
But, since you asked me, YES, not only Jews, but Muslims, Hindus, atheists, humanists and every other ism or ist that rejects Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord will be in hell for eternity, separated from God because of unbelief. At one time, I believe, this was even the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, was it not? Just for clarification, are you not in sync with your own church now?
So, will you answer my question since I answered yours?
Did I have a fight with someone last year? With who? Which side of the argument did I take?
Well, that’s your choice to change your doctrine.
Did I? Did bb?
Why don't you provide the links to prove yourself right instead of throwing out spurious claims as if they were fact?
Still trying to stir up discord in the wee hours, I see? Slow day?
Standard operating procedure for this one. As you can see my comment was misquoted AND taken out of context. Probably hoping it stayed out there all night to stir up a little discord. Glad you were still up, mm. :o)
Got up. I couldn’t sleep so decided to get a little snack.
Shall I get a bit of popecorn popped while we wait (not holding our breath) for the requested evidence?
I wonder what position I took in the *large fight*.
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