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To: imardmd1
Everyone needs a Savior.

It's like there's a quicksand pit. I fell into it and needed a Savior to pull me out. She needed a Savior to prevent her inevitably falling into it. Both the person in the quicksand, and the person about to fall into the quicksand, need to be rescued --- because on their own they would be lost.

663 posted on 08/13/2013 3:59:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's like there's a quicksand pit. I fell into it and needed a Savior to pull me out. She needed a Savior to prevent her inevitably falling into it. Both the person in the quicksand, and the person about to fall into the quicksand, need to be rescued --- because on their own they would be lost.

Well said as always.

664 posted on 08/13/2013 4:03:08 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's like there's a quicksand pit.

It's not like a quicksand pit. Even though someone might have fallen into a quicksand pit, it is not a sin to do so. Neither does it take a sinless savior to pull you out, nor to effectively warn you of the danger.

But what you haven't discussed here it the inescapable congenital predisposition to sin, which even as a babe, every human has and does, being a replication of the flesh and soul of fallen Adam and Eve.

(Some fallen thinkers have tried to dodge the issue by pushing this problem back one generation by claiming that Mary's mother somehow conceived a Scripturally unexplainable perfect seed out of imperfect gametes.)

666 posted on 08/13/2013 5:54:57 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
She needed a Savior to prevent her inevitably falling into it.

Nice try; but Scripture says that ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of GOD.

If you've any PROOF that that statement is INCORRECT; We'd sure love to see it!

676 posted on 08/13/2013 10:48:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I fell into it and needed a Savior to pull me out.

You were born into it.

She needed a Savior to prevent her inevitably falling into it.

She was born into it.

Both the person in the quicksand, and the person about to fall into the quicksand

ALL was born into it.

because on their own they would be lost.

They ARE lost until them come unto HIM, THE SAVIOR.

703 posted on 08/13/2013 4:19:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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