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To: editor-surveyor
The praise given of the wine Yeshua made made it plain that it was quality fermented wine.

OK, tell of the method by which you can say authoritatively that the wine made by Jesus at Cana was fermented wine.

In fact, it would be interesting to know how you have discerned that ant of the wine consumed at Cana was alcoholic wine.

Please do so?

392 posted on 08/08/2013 6:57:24 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Plain sense of the text?

I suppose you would have the guests praising the quality of thr grape juice? “Jesus, this is some mighty fine grape juice!”


395 posted on 08/08/2013 7:08:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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To: imardmd1
Correction to 392:

ant any

414 posted on 08/09/2013 12:20:15 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
OK, tell of the method by which you can say authoritatively that the wine made by Jesus at Cana was fermented wine.

Oh; about the SAME way that you say it wasn't!

430 posted on 08/09/2013 6:28:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

>> “In fact, it would be interesting to know how you have discerned that ant of the wine consumed at Cana was alcoholic wine” <<

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This is going to have to be a “Get Real” moment.

I want to say first that I have no desire to impun your chosen chastity WRT alcohol.

Have you ever read the second chapter of John carefully enough to determine what time of the year it was?

The wedding was just over a week before Passover, which is always in the middle of the month of the Aviv. This was a traditional spring wedding. Where would anyone find grape juice in that time of the year?

And who would have praised the quality after having had wine earlier, and then served grape juice?

Put your bias aside, and read the chapter with more discernment of what is actually being said.

Also note that Yeshua had done more than just make wine; he had defiled the ceremonial hand washing pots of the pharisees, a total rejection of their Takanot for “the washing of the hands.” (he had a later run-in with them recorded in Matthew on this same subject)


451 posted on 08/09/2013 11:05:47 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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