Does The Orthodox Presbyterian Church use the Crucifix?

The Orthodox Presbyterian Church ^

[Gamecock]

Question:

Does the OPC use the crucifix in the church? If not, are they opposed to it?

Answer:

Thank you for your question. The answer is, so far as I know, the crucifix is not used in OPC churches, and here is why:

1.The Second Commandment (Ex. 20:4-6 and Deut. 5:8-10) forbids any picture or image of God, and that would include the Son of God, even as man. At any rate we do not know what Jesus looked like as there is no physical description of him.

2.The crucifix will always end up being an object of worship—regarded as holy. History teaches as much. The bronze serpent Moses made became an object of worship and was not destroyed till King Hezekiah did it (Numbers 21:9; 2 Kings 18:1-5). Roman Catholics have worshipped it, kissed it and held it to have mystical powers.

3.Christ did not remain on the Cross. In the Roman Church Christ is said to be resacrificed each time the Mass is celebrated. This is heresy; he died once for all—Hebrews 9:25-28.

We in the OPC have learned not to trust our idolatry prone hearts not to do the same as others have in the past. Hence, no crucifixes are used. So, yes, we are opposed to it.

[editor-surveyor]

Correction, it will be ready at Succot, not Shavuot.

I do not know if it will be available through outside retailers at first.

I believe that the first releases will be package deals like this:

http://store.aroodawakening.tv/the-chronological-gospels/the-chronological-gospels-scholars-package-preorder.html?utm_source=A+Rood+Awakening&utm_campaign=89336f2b88-chrongos7_8&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_694a20ceef-89336f2b88-281802585

[editor-surveyor]

>> “You may mean celibate” <<

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No, I meant Celebrate. (with wine)

[WVKayaker]

>>No, I meant Celebrate. (with wine)<<

Celebrate
Three Dog Night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXI6CdTVJ-0

Slippin’ away, sittin’ on a pillow
Waitin’ for night to fall
A girl and a dream, sittin’ on a pillow
This is the night to go to the celebrity ball

Satin and lace, isn’t it a pity
Didn’t find time to call
Ready or not, gonna make it to the city
This is the night to go to the celebrity ball

Dress up tonight, why be lonely?
You’ll stay at home and you’ll be alone
So why be lonely?
Sittin’ alone, sittin’ on a pillow
Waitin’ to climb the walls
Maybe tonight, depending how your dream goes
She’ll open her eyes when she goes to the celebrity ball

Dress up tonight, why be lonely?
You’ll stay at home and you’ll be alone
So why be lonely?
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/three_dog_night/

[WVKayaker]

>>No, I meant Celebrate. (with wine)<<

Kool and the Gang..
Celebration!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

Yahoo! This is your celebration
Yahoo! This is your celebration

Celebrate good times, come on! (Let’s celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let’s celebrate)

There’s a party goin’ on right here
A celebration to last throughout the years
So bring your good times, and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you

Come on now

Celebration
Let’s all celebrate and have a good time
Celebration
We gonna celebrate and have a good time

It’s time to come together
It’s up to you, what’s your pleasure

Everyone around the world
Come on!

Yahoo! It’s a celebration
Yahoo!

Celebrate good times, come on!
It’s a celebration
Celebrate good times, come on!
Let’s celebrate

We’re gonna have a good time tonight
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right
We’re gonna have a good time tonight
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right

Baby...

We’re gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right
We’re gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let’s celebrate, it’s all right

Yahoo!
Yahoo!

Celebrate good times, come on! (Let’s celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on!
It’s a celebration!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let’s celebrate)

Come on and celebrate, good times, tonight (Celebrate good times, come on!)
‘Cause everything’s gonna be all right
Let’s celebrate (Celebrate good times, come on)
(Let’s celebrate)...

[verga]

Looks interesting, I will have to save up for it.

Thanks for the link.

[verga]

Love that song and TDN. My sister-in-law was good friends with Corey Wells sister (Long before I married intothe family.)

[editor-surveyor]

I found a code to buy just the book:

http://store.aroodawakening.tv/the-chronological-gospels/the-chronological-gospels-bible.html

[imardmd1]

That's good to know. Thank you.

I am very curious about breba figs near Passover time.

[imardmd1]

If the barley is not ready, they insert the extra month.

So the intercalary month makes the date come later seaonally? ad this drops back until another 2nd Adar is needed, I suppose?

[verga]

That is a whole lot more affordable. Thank you.

[verga]

That is a climatic/agricultural issue. If the barley is not ready, they insert the extra month. They must have Aviv barley for “First Fruits.”

I am confused, I had a (Jewish) instructor in college that was telling us that it had to do with the Jewish calender having 12 months of 29/30 days and that the extra month was inserted every 6 years. And then every 18 years they inserted and extra time period. He said it had to do with the flooding of the Nile. I don't recall all of the details and it has been 20+ years since I had Dr. Waxman.

[MarkBsnr]

They are the ones who want to know why YOUR church removed much of the plain and precious things from the original manuscripts.

The province of Saskatchewan is not removed. Take that back.

[MarkBsnr]

Something is wrong here. Tiberius took up the throne when his father Augustus died on August 19, 14 AD.

Tiberius was Livia's son, not the son of Augustus. Something is very wrong.

[MarkBsnr]

Certainly.

Fresh leg of lamb. Set in cooking pan or cookie sheet (with high sides to contain the fat). Fat side up

Sharp paring knife - cut several thousand pockets into the meat and insert whole garlic cloves (as many as you can). A handful or two of coarse kosher salt sprinkled over top.

Middle rack of the oven. 500F for 45 minutes. 400F for 40 minutes. Let sit for 10 minutes. When the fat starts to collect in the pan, slick up quartered potatoes or carrots or whole garlic heads or whatever you like roasted. Keep it basted.

Slice horizontally - that way every slice is the same level of doneness. Also, when it comes time to reheat the leftovers, you won’t be overdoing the meat.

Don’t be timid. Your taste buds will love you for it.

[MarkBsnr]

Try post 574

[Elsie]

I never joke!

[Elsie]

Christ’s Bema seat Judgment of the constituents of His Bride is some Thousand years plus a few earlier than the GET Judgment.

Oh?

Then WHY is the Book of Life opened?

[Elsie]

Christ’s Bema seat Judgment...

Just WHERE is THIS found in Scripture?

[Elsie]

Sure!

The bitas and pieces that were lifted from Christianity!

Although the ORDER that they are transcribed (plagerized?) would tend to mess with a rational persons mind.

[Elsie]

I won’t impun you for bad typing.