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To: verga; Iscool
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born again font color=red>anóthen, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/509.htm

anóthen
Short Definition: from above, from the beginning, again
Definition: (a) from above, from heaven, (b) from the beginning, from their origin (source), from of old, (c) again, anew.

Please don’t accuse someone of lying when Strongs, Thayers, and NASEC all agree that again is indeed one of the interpretations of that word.

You either need to prove that again is not one of the interpretations as Strongs, Thayers, and NASEC say it is or you owe Iscool an apology and a post that admits that he did indeed state one of the correct interpretations. I will mark this post and ask Iscool as well as other readers of this thread to mark this post and await either your proof or apology.

443 posted on 07/25/2013 6:32:14 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

And what did Jesus tell Nicodemus?

You fail to post the entire chapter.


445 posted on 07/25/2013 6:46:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CynicalBear

LOL...If one is born of the womb one time and then born from above the 2nd time, Is he/she born again on the 2nd birth???

It’s not just stubbornness and stupidity playing its hand...There’s a motive for the rejection of ‘born again’...


447 posted on 07/25/2013 6:56:52 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: CynicalBear
At it's very best it is a tertiay definition, and as I clearly showed using as "again" does snot fit with any of the other 11 times it is used. Go ahead and substitute Palin/Palon for any of the otehr times it is used and tell me if a single one of those times makes sense.

Matt 27:51 And behold, the veil of the sanctuary was torn in two from top (Anthon) to bottom. The earth quaked, rocks were split.

Was the curtain ripped again or from the top?

Mark 15:38 The veil of the sanctuary was torn in two from top (above anthon) to bottom.

Same question different gospel.

John 3:31 The one who comes from above (Anthon) is above (Anthon) all. The one who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of earthly things. But the one who comes from heaven (is above all).

Did Jesus come from above or did he come from the magical land called again?

463 posted on 07/25/2013 7:24:45 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: CynicalBear; Iscool
Look at this.

http://biblehub.com/john/3-3.htm

The Douay-Rheims Bible says.....

John 3:3 Jesus answered, and said to him: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

464 posted on 07/25/2013 7:25:30 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear
...you owe Iscool an apology...

But the BIBLE says...

Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

--CatholicDude(So THERE! pbbt!!!)

498 posted on 07/26/2013 3:53:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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