Posted on 07/19/2013 5:39:12 AM PDT by fatima
http://www.spiritdaily.com/lorig.htm
For Father Lorig, going strong at 77 and full of the Spirit, it's a matter of seeing some of it with his own eyes.
On about a dozen occasions, says the priest, he has personally encountered spirits of the dead, including at bedside during the night, and has been led to pray their souls toward Jesus.
Father Lorig, who was ordained a Catholic priest in 1984, and who is married with four children (and fifteen grandchildren), had some special experiences while at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Nogales (near the Mexican border).
"It was built over an Indian graveyard -- paleo-Indians who were peaceful," says Father Lorig, pastor of Saint Maria Goretti parish (he is not associated with previous claims at this church of the supernatural).
"While we were digging a sacrarium -- a dry well [for proper disposal of Communion wine] -- the workmen came upon hand-made pots. We called the University of Arizona, which had paleontologists, and they came down.
As I explained in my post, there is no soul to be praying for. The dead do not wander around, free to communicate with us, so the only spirits that fit the bill are demonic. No amount of praying will avail them.
Also, he admits in the article to directly communicating TO them, which is totally forbidden. He does it in the context of a Catholic mass as well, so I would think Catholics would be more upset with him for defiling what they consider a sacrament.
Being with the Lord we can communicate with them through the Lord because of His generosity.
I am not upset at all. Please do not use this beautiful write-up to bash those of us who are Catholic. Thank-you.
So what do you consider communication with the deceased?
I certainly will not, lets not make this personal OK?
I have copied my post so at which time it is removed for "bashing" Catholics I will re-word it and post it again.
And there's so much at Free Republic to "offer up"!
:o}
It’s a Catholic belief/practice; hence, unChristian! Duh!
;-)
LOL!
There's a difference between praying for someone and who you're praying to. I pray to God to protect and guide me and my family. That's praying for someone. My mother, father, sister and other relatives and friends are dead. I pray to God for them. That's another example of praying for someone, it's not an attempt to communicate with the dead.
Wow, ok, that’s way over the top. Have a great day.
They are.((((Hugs))))
Amen.
Way over the top? I guess Jesus is “way over the top” for you then. Matthew 12:24-27.
God knows my heart, he knows my loss. He has gifted me many times with what I believe are miracles, (there is no other explanation) of contact, with my family members who are gone. So am I to believe these unique and beautiful events are with demons? I don’t think so......
Jesus is talking about driving demons out, what’s that got to do with communing with the dead?
No, Jesus is talking about several things - including the fact that those in Heaven will be living. There are no dead people to God in the same sense you are focusing on. Our bodies dies. Our souls don’t. The saints in Heaven are ALIVE.
Well, no point in debating this when the whole religion is a false prophet. Jesus warns us of this, especially in the last days.
The Church cannot be a false prophet because Christ founded her. Anti-Catholic Protestants, however, are false prophets. All they can do is echo the ignorance their heretical forefathers invented in the 16th century.
Why do you even bother?
I am looking at putting these anti-Catholics on ignore because of their errors.
Yes of course it does, it many places. Here is one example:
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 :
‘5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.’
Or Ecclesiastes 12:7:
‘7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.’
The dead are not wandering around,; they are either in a place awaiting the resurrection, or they may be with the Father in heaven, but they certainly have no place in our affairs here on earth.
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