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To: Iscool
"If you want to put an legitimacy to your claim, show us what God has done outside the scriptures pertaining to your religion...Otherwise, you may as well be blowing bubbles..."    "So what did Jesus tell you guys that he didn't write in the scriptures??? You got anything??? Anything at all???"

Iscool, we've all seen that you and your buddies here have been told the answer to that question numerous times, but you obdurately refuse to accept it.

The "New Testament" consists of 27 "books", most of which are "letters" written by Paul, and John, and Peter, etc.    Many other letters were written by Christians at that time, as well as other accounts of Christian endeavors, and so forth.    Show us anywhere in the Bible where it says which of all those writings should be included in that New Testament.

The truth is that there is no such text -- that was decided by human beings based on guidance provided by God OUTSIDE THE WRITTEN SCRIPTURES!!!

(There is no specification in the Bible as to which written documents to include in the New Testament, and there is no account in the Bible about how those writings were selected. Those things were all done "outside the Scriptures".)    If you dispute that, then show us all the exact text where it is specified what writings should be included in the New Testament.

In the past, when you or your buddies have been asked to provide that text, you quickly change the subject, and start going through all kinds of gyrations and contortions and misdirection to try to obfuscate that point and dodge the question.

The real truth, whether you wish to accept it or not, is that there is no text anywhere in the Bible that tells anyone which writings belong in the New Testament.    That decision was determined by human beings in Church Councils under the infallible guidance of God.

1,249 posted on 07/18/2013 3:57:09 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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To: Heart-Rest
The real truth, whether you wish to accept it or not, is that there is no text anywhere in the Bible that tells anyone which writings belong in the New Testament. That decision was determined by human beings in Church Councils under the infallible guidance of God.

That wasn't the issue although that is an argument of its own...The issue is you guys claim that your 'traditions' are equal with scripture and that while the bible is the written word of God, there are other teachings of God pertaining to your religion that are just as authoritative as the scriptures...And my response was:

"If you want to put an legitimacy to your claim, show us what God has done outside the scriptures pertaining to your religion...Otherwise, you may as well be blowing bubbles..." "So what did Jesus tell you guys that he didn't write in the scriptures??? You got anything??? Anything at all???"

You posted my question but you immediately veered off the path of the conversation and started talking about your version of the scriptures which has been proven over and over again to not be inspired by God...

So what teaching outside of the scriptures has God given to your religion??? When did it happen, what was it and to whom was it revealed???

1,266 posted on 07/18/2013 7:56:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Heart-Rest
And since the Catholic Church put the New Testament together all the anti-Catholic Self-Alone folks who claim have no need for the Catholic Church and only need the Bible are in fact relying on the Catholic Church having been led by the Holy Spirit when it put together and protected the Scripture we call the New Testament.

Therefore, the claim such folks make about not having come to Christ thanks to the work of The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded is a deliberate falsehood or proof that they're blinded by a powerful delusion.

Of course, those who only accept the Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture refuse to accept the same Scripture Christ and the Apostles used and quoted so they have all sorts of things they claim aren't in the Bible after first throwing out part of the Bible.

A clear cut case of people who follow Eve and worship their own, Most High and Holy Self.

1,267 posted on 07/18/2013 7:57:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Heart-Rest
The real truth, whether you wish to accept it or not, is that there is no text anywhere in the Bible that tells anyone which writings belong in the New Testament. That decision was determined by human beings in Church Councils under the infallible guidance of God.

HMMMmmm...

Is there any text, anywhere, that tells us that church councils are under the infallible guidance of God?

1,298 posted on 07/19/2013 4:22:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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