[Rashputin]

And since the Catholic Church put the New Testament together all the anti-Catholic Self-Alone folks who claim have no need for the Catholic Church and only need the Bible are in fact relying on the Catholic Church having been led by the Holy Spirit when it put together and protected the Scripture we call the New Testament.

Therefore, the claim such folks make about not having come to Christ thanks to the work of The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded is a deliberate falsehood or proof that they're blinded by a powerful delusion.

Of course, those who only accept the Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture refuse to accept the same Scripture Christ and the Apostles used and quoted so they have all sorts of things they claim aren't in the Bible after first throwing out part of the Bible.

A clear cut case of people who follow Eve and worship their own, Most High and Holy Self.

[Revolting cat!]

Rash, I have even a simpler argument, and that is if it's really sola scriptura, then what are these snake handlers doing here i n t e r p r e t i n g the Bible for us? Who are they? Are they not men telling us what the God's word means? Sorry, but that is a vicious circle of their reasoning that they cannot get out of!

[boatbums]

Of course, those who only accept the Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture refuse to accept the same Scripture Christ and the Apostles used and quoted so they have all sorts of things they claim aren't in the Bible after first throwing out part of the Bible.

And what exactly is that "Pharisee Approved LUTHER Subset of Scripture", Rash? Have you forgotten already that we have discussed this point many, many times and that Luther did NOT remove ANY of the books that Catholics think are "Scripture"? Why must you guys persist in that falsehood? Do you actually think it adds to your veracity in these discussions? It doesn't.

And, just what doctrines exactly do you imagine "we" claim aren't in this "Catholic" approved Bible that would make us throw books out in the first place? I've asked you this before and never did hear your answer. Could be a clear cut case of people who worship their church.

[CynicalBear]

Self-Alone Born again folks who claim have no need for the Catholic Church and only need the Bible are in fact relying on the Catholic Church an implement of God having been led by the Holy Spirit when it put together and protected the Scripture we call the New Testament.

There, fixed it for ya. The Catholic Church was an implement of God just as Judas was. It also turned on Christ, went for the moneyh and incorporated paganism into it’s religion.

>>refuse to accept the same Scripture Christ and the Apostles used and quoted<<

Would like those examples from scripture please.