Posted on 07/14/2013 3:02:43 PM PDT by NYer
xzins wrote:
If someone is now listening, I’d like them to pray to God with me about my extremely ill, 3 year old grandson. Pray to God with me that he will be healed of the cancer that is ravaging his tiny body.
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)
The apostle Paul even says we are baptized "into Christ"...a person...(Romans 6:3) -- not so much baptized into a church...though 1 Cor. 12:13 does say we baptized so as to form one body.
Is your reading comprehension really as bad as all that?
Where did I say or even imply something like that?
How did you find out about Jesus in the first place?
The same way everyone else does, by the Word. All we know and need to know about Jesus is found in the Bible.
Already gave it. Acts 4:12.
Try reading my posts next time before you ask for something that is already posted.
“The same way everyone else does, by the Word. All we know and need to know about Jesus is found in the Bible.”
So how did you find out about the bible?
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you”
CB's initial question to you asked where the Council of Nicea GOT the idea of defining the Trinity. They did NOT just invent the doctrine. They knew what the Apostles taught, what Jesus taught and what the Bible said concerning the nature of Almighty God and how He has revealed Himself to mankind. They took this knowledge and came up with a succinct and easy to learn "creed" that put into words what Scripture clearly taught. It was certainly in answer to heretical sects that flared up from the start that questioned the Deity of Jesus Christ and it addressed and defined what the Trinity is so that Christians would not be confused and tripped up by these heretics. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity:
The corresponding word in Greek is Τριάς, meaning "a set of three" or "the number three".[8]
The first recorded use of this Greek word in Christian theology (although not about the Divine Trinity) was by Theophilus of Antioch in about 170. He wrote:[9][10]
In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are types of the Trinity [Τριάδος], of God, and His Word, and His wisdom. And the fourth is the type of man, who needs light, that so there may be God, the Word, wisdom, man.[11]
Tertullian, a Latin theologian who wrote in the early 3rd century, is credited as being the first to use the Latin words "Trinity",[12] "person" and "substance"[13] to explain that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are "one in essence—not one in Person".[14]
So, the Council of Nicea did not invent the doctrine of the Trinity. They defined it as Scripture did. One can believe in the Trinity without having to accept everything that Nicea put forth because it is a Biblical doctrine found in Scripture.
Amen!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3042902/posts?page=929#929
Catholic Prayer Ping!
Please send your prayers to xzins
Prayers sent.
UI pray that your grandson be healed of this cancer. May the Lord grant parents and grandparents strength and guidance during this ordeal. In Jesus’ name....Amen.
xzins, post 931 was meant for you.
We are listening, xzinz - and at this very moment, praying for your precious grandson.
It is so painful, to see a little soul suffer with such a horrible disease.
Your grandson, his parents, your entire family are being prayed for, and prayers will continue for the little boy you love so much!
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The Supreme Authority for Catholics is Almighty God.
Jesus Christ began to build His Church before one word of the New Testament was written down, and that Church obviously did NOT have a New Testament to use as an authority at that time. The Supreme Authority for the Church that Jesus Christ built was always Almighty God. Right from the very beginning of the Church that Jesus Christ founded, the Holy Spirit was guiding the Church in her teachings before one word of the New Testament was written down, and the Holy Spirit has been guiding the Church in her teachings ever since, just like Jesus Christ solemnly promised.
That Catholic Church which Jesus Christ built is NOT based on the traditions of men -- that is utterly false, no matter how many times you choose to repeat it. The Catholic Church which Jesus Christ built is based on the Holy Teachings of God, given to men.
The Scriptures are very important, but they only contain a small smidgen of what God has done, and what God continues to do.
John 21:25 explicitly states that Jesus did many other things that were NOT written down, and that all the books in the world would likely not be able to hold all of them.
God also continues to do many other new things all the time, which are not recorded in the Scriptures. (For example, He gave you your life, and that is not recorded in the Bible.)
You also said in an earlier post (#788) that Patrick Madrid tries to sound like an evangelical by quoting so much scripture. With all due respect, BALONEY! Rather, Patrick Madrid sounds like a Catholic. Having gone to many thousands of different Protestant services for many years, I can tell you without a doubt that Catholics typically hear many more readings from the Scriptures in their Masses than Protestants do in their typical services.
If you don't believe that, I urge you to try an experiment for about two or three weeks. The Daily Mass on EWTN is run live at 8 AM Eastern time (then usually rerun at 12 noon and 7PM). To watch it online, go to the EWTN web site here:
then highlight the word "Television" at the top of that page, then move down to highlight "Live TV - English", then over to "LIve Streams", "United States English", and click on that. A window pops open which will show the live (or rerun) Mass.
Watch those Daily Masses for about two or three weeks, and write down all the explicit Biblical texts hich are read during the Masses. (Don't worry about all the many other additional Bibical references that are made during each Mass, but only the explicit Bible texts given and read during each Mass.)
Be completely honest with yourself when you assess those Bible readings. (Remember that dishonesty comes from Satan.)
(By the way, that is only the tip of the iceberg as far as the Catholic use of Bible readings every single day -- some time do a Google search on "Liturgy of the Hours" and "Catholic Bible Study", and "Lectio Divina", just for extended starters.)
I have to sign off now, but I hope you get a chance tomorrow to start watching those Daily Masses, so you can see for yourself, and not keep repeating your many erroneous statements, over and over and over again.
Goodnight.
No, the method Saul used was forbidden by God and Jewish Law.
Oh Lord....please, share Your strength and offer Your comfort to this little one, those who love him, and to the medical team.
Dear Lord, hear our humble prayer.
Tatt
Dead saints" is the terminology of many Protestants who argue against the Communion of Saints. The author used that so that those making that argument would recognize that he was answering that argument.
4. The Bible does not show an example of praying or talking to a departed saint
Elijah and Moses conversed with Jesus Christ at the Transfiguration. That is in the piece, too, but you have to read past the first couple of lines.
In the currently understood use of the word, no.Saints are souls that are in Heaven. In the apostolic times use of the word, believing Christians were the saints as opposed to the pagans. Some Protestants use the word in the older sense and that is fine, too.
“what the Bible said concerning the nature of Almighty God”
What edition did they cite?
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