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A Christian Band With Secular Business Practices
The Christian Diarist ^ | June 8, 2013 | JP

Posted on 06/08/2013 12:06:29 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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The Lord has no problem with prosperity, be it an individual or a business. But He does care how money is made in His name.
1 posted on 06/08/2013 12:06:30 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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Hillsong has been a blessing in my Christian walk and in that of millions others. I’d pay more to see them than any secular band.


2 posted on 06/08/2013 12:13:51 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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The Gaithers are not exactly non profit either.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 12:18:10 PM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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“The Gaithers are not exactly non profit either.”

The Gaithers have to be the worst offenders in this regard. Crazy expensive tickets!

As for Hillsong, it is part of a larger ministry (a church) with numerous campuses around the globe. At the very least, the money, I’d imagine, is invested back into the ministry at some level. Brian Houston is a great man of God and their music is the standard bearer now for praise/worship in churches today.

As another poster pointed out, just think of all the money people throw at secular bands.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by AskNotReceiveNot
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Or you could just stay away from mega-Christianity altogether and “go to Him outside the camp.”


5 posted on 06/08/2013 12:41:36 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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Its playlist includes “Shout to the Lord,” “Mighty to Save,” “Hosanna,” “My Redeemer Lives,” “The Stand,” “Worthy is the Lamb,” “From the Inside Out,” “Lead Me to the Cross” and other standards in Sunday church services not just in the land down under, but also here in the United States.

So THEY'RE the ones who wrecked my church service.

6 posted on 06/08/2013 12:45:09 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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what’s the difference between ‘a decent’ profit and ‘a maximization’ of profit? is there a formula for it or is it what you decide? How much does it cost to put on the concert? Does the band keep the money for them selves or do they donate it to charities or efforts that help the Kingdom? There seems to be a lot we don’t know about what this group does with its money. It seems that should be between them and The Lord.


7 posted on 06/08/2013 12:50:16 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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The only non-profit “famous” Christian artist I’ve ever heard of was Rich Mullins.

This was his practice: The profits from his tours and the sale of each album were entrusted to his church, which divided it up, paid Mullins the average salary in the U.S. for that year, and gave the rest to charity.

He was a wealthy man, and he had no idea what kind of wealth his songs, song rights (dozens of artists recorded his songs), and albums generated. He didn’t want to know.

I believe the best Christian songwriter at present, who writes and sings songs, in the Rich Mullins style, is Andrew Peterson. Check him out on youtube if you’ve never heard his songs.


8 posted on 06/08/2013 12:59:12 PM PDT by memyselfandi59
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Thank you, Friend. I just checked out “Dancing in the Minefields.” You’re so right. Andrew Peterson is a wonderful Christian artist.


9 posted on 06/08/2013 1:11:50 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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I used to wonder about Father John Corapi. He gave amazing, spirit filled and orthodox conferences. Then he sold the tapes and videos at exhorbitant prices. I always thought if he was truly a man of God he would sell them for cost just to get the Word out. I don’t know if he started out as one, but he ended up being a fraud and left the priesthood.


10 posted on 06/08/2013 1:23:52 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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He’s been recording from the mid 90’s but is relatively unknown. I have all his albums on MP3 format, and just play them in the background while I’m working. I and other friends who appreciate his music, say, “He writes about where we live.” I like all his songs, and the interesting thing is some songs minister me more on certain days, and then I’ll have a new “favorite” a few days later. My favorite right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzzGuQcyQs


11 posted on 06/08/2013 1:29:07 PM PDT by memyselfandi59
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I started playing bass in 1998. I cut my teeth covering their stuff. It made me a much better player because it is difficult (I played 5 string from the start). I eventually became worship leader.

I still have recordings I got of Limewire that I used to practice. I listen to them sometimes and, though they are pretty good stuff, I enjoy all genre’s of music except rap/hip hop. I also believe there are two types of Christian music: worship and performance. They did blur the lines with their music though.

All that said, when I go to a music “concert”, I don’t go to overtly “worship the Lord”. I go to listen to good music. This is true if it is classical, rock, pop or “Christian” - though Michael W. Smith pulled off a pretty good worship concert in his Worship DVD.

If I paid money to see Hillsongs, it would not be to worship. It would be to enjoy good music performed by talented and skilled musicians. Frankly, when they put the overt worship stuff in it they are not really getting my emotional buy in. And I don’t want the worship part to be emotional anyway. It is better than that.

BTW, the reason I became worship leader at my church was that the whole band quit to join a different church where they would have a bigger crowd.

Yeah. Me too. It’s why I didn’t go with them.


12 posted on 06/08/2013 1:45:44 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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But He does care how money is made in His name.


I’ve heard it said that that is what is meant by using the Lord’s name in vain. e.g. putting the Christian fish on your business card. It is a way of saying, “I’m a Christian, do business with me.”


13 posted on 06/08/2013 1:53:35 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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At the very least, the money, I’d imagine, is invested back into the ministry at some level.


Those two words “I’d Imagine”, are the rub.

We don’t know. Nor do I care - if they are playing the music as entertainers and not as “worship leaders”. Last I heard, it is bad form to pay people for the privilege of attending their worship service. I think Jesus tossed some tables over it.


14 posted on 06/08/2013 1:56:19 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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40 bucks for a band tee shirt and this author is complaining? That seems right in line with any shirt from Abercrombie and Fitch and Hollister. I guess this author needs to get a grip on reality.


15 posted on 06/08/2013 2:05:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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The Lord has no problem with prosperity, be it an individual or a business. But He does care how money is made in His name.P>Jesus asked a rich man to give up all he had. Jesus was not big on wealth prosperity so I wouldn't go down that path of trying to pick which jobs Jesus would say are OK or not. In any event it is none of this author's business how people make a legal living. However he is free to lead the way and show us how it is supposed to be done ... according to him.
16 posted on 06/08/2013 2:21:41 PM PDT by plain talk
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I would strenuously object if they would charge these prices at the regular meeting of the body of Christ, a church worship service. I object when tapes, tee shirts and other stuff are sold on Sunday in a church.

But, frankly, I cannot at all find anything wrong with what they did. Who are you to set a valuation on something that belongs to them? No one forces you to buy a tee shirt. It isn’t required by God and so they are not hindering you in your walk with the Lord. They think their stuff is worth the prices they’ve set. You don’t. Then, negotiate or don’t buy.


17 posted on 06/08/2013 2:58:00 PM PDT by Jemian
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Well that gave me a good chuckle.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 3:11:46 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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My good friend, a self-made multimillionaire. As honest as the day is long, also very caring and giving says this about christians and business.
He says:
"When I go to church I sit in the front row. After everyone is seated I turn and look at all the faces behind me and THAT is how I know who NOT to do business with."
19 posted on 06/08/2013 4:25:16 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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Yes! When I looked to buy I could not believe his prices. Totally higher than anyone.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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