Freewill applied even to Mary. Mary, like every person of every time is given the opportunity to accept and cooperate with Grace or reject it and choose sin. Mary was not God's brood mare, nor the rape victim of the Holy Spirit nor some rent-a-womb in a surrogate scheme imposed upon Her.
From the moment of Jesus' conception until His birth She was the Holy of Holies, the living Tabernacle and the Ark of the New Covenant. She was a creature, but She is NOT your equal or mine.
Peace be with you
Of course she is...If your religion would quit making up stories to add to the bible, you'd know that as well...
What is it about Catholicism that twists a Catholics thinking about sex?
Catholics can spew the most vulgar things about people in regards to sex and procreation.
Sure she is. We are human all.
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
2 Corinthians 10:12 Not that we dare to classify or compare ourselves with some of those who are commending themselves. But when they measure themselves by one another and compare themselves with one another, they are without understanding.
God is not a respecter of persons.
Sometimes a cigar ISN'T a cigar...
There goes that pesky respecter of persons thingy.
If Mary had free will, did God have back up Holy of Holies (sinless women) ready to go? If she could have refused, then that opens up the possibility that the Mother of Jesus was not known at the beginning of time. This means that either the nature of God would have had to change at the moment that the mother of Jesus was impregnated (an impossibility) or that the mother gave nothing of herself to Him during the pregnancy - God just came through her.
There are no other possibilities - well, except “It a mystery! To the rack with anyone who says otherwise!”
Mary was not God's brood mare, nor the rape victim of the Holy Spirit nor some rent-a-wombThose suppositions come ONLY from your posts.
How anyone could even post the words bolded above is completely unbelievable.
But IIRC you have posted other equally sick comments in the past.
What a completely degrading thing to twist opinions of other posters into close to, if not, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
From a Catholicism expert no less. Oh that explains it, duly noted.
Wrong!! Jesus laid aside His glory and became a man.
According to Jesus, Mary is like anyone else who hears and obeys HIS Father. Those Scripture(Luke 8:21, Matt 12:48,49 and Mark 3:33) have been posted over and over and those who DON'T BELIEVE God's Word is the FINAL authority IGNORE them and continue with idolizing Mary with their 'not hearing' and disobedience to The Father.
"For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so He condemned sin in the flesh", Romans 8:3
"He made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness." Phil 2:7
Jesus took on the form or likeness of mankind. He had a sinless physical body but a physical body nonetheless.
nor the rape victim of the Holy Spirit
What trashy talk, not only to think - but to post!
"And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy Word. And the angel departed from her." Luke 1:38
Mary conceived by the Word, the spoken Word.
And The Word is...
"And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call His name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto Him the throne of His father David" Luke 1:31
"So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: it shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isaiah 55:11
He created the universe with His Word! God speaks it, IT HAPPENS!
I'm not at all interested in starting an argument on this, but how do you reconcile the Catholic doctrine of Mary's immaculate conception - whereby she is said to have been conceived without "original sin" and to have remained sinless throughout her entire life - with what you are saying here about Mary's freedom of will to accept or reject the opportunity God had for her? Think in terms of the possibility that, if she had said "no", what would have happened about her sinlessness? Would she have then become a "retroactive" sinner (her sin being the rejection of God's will) and been as unrighteous as all mankind, continuing to sin further and needing the redemption that is in Christ?
It sounds to me like there is a contradiction with the way you phrase your opinion of "free will" applying to Mary. Her being created without a sin nature would have made her incapable of saying "no" to God, but you crudely say that would make Mary "God's brood mare", his "rent-a-womb" and make the Holy Spirit a "rapist". It is only the logical conclusion of your OWN argument and highlights the error of pronouncing Mary as a created sinless vessel but with a free will.