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To: metmom
"Why would God want to deny us salvation?"

Yet not all are saved. Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot? If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

1,226 posted on 06/04/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot?


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


1,247 posted on 06/05/2013 3:38:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
Yet not all are saved. Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot? If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Of course not all are saved. Not everyone wants to be saved. It's not granted automatically.

Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot?

As opposed to some priest saying some magic words and changing some wheat and wine into the body and blood of Jesus?

If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Hope is a gift? Chapter and verse please...

Besides, we don't presume salvation. We trust God to keep his word when He promises us something. It's called *faith*.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Hoping for salvation is a sure sign a person doesn't have it.

Our salvation doesn't start when we die. It starts when we repent and believe. Now. Here on earth.

It just reaches it's fulfillment when we die.

A person who does not have salvation before they die goes to hell when they do. Nobody gets it after.

1,302 posted on 06/06/2013 12:29:42 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
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Yet not all are saved. Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot? If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Of course not all are saved. Not everyone wants to be saved. It's not granted automatically.

Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot?

As opposed to some priest saying some magic words and changing some wheat and wine into the body and blood of Jesus?

If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Hope is a gift? Chapter and verse please...

Besides, we don't presume salvation. We trust God to keep his word when He promises us something. It's called *faith*.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Hoping for salvation is a sure sign a person doesn't have it.

Our salvation doesn't start when we die. It starts when we repent and believe. Now. Here on earth.

It just reaches it's fulfillment when we die.

A person who does not have salvation before they die goes to hell when they do. Nobody gets it after.

1,303 posted on 06/06/2013 12:31:09 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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