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To: Natural Law
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Yet not all are saved. Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot? If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Of course not all are saved. Not everyone wants to be saved. It's not granted automatically.

Do you really believe that all one has to do is say the magic words and then put it on autopilot?

As opposed to some priest saying some magic words and changing some wheat and wine into the body and blood of Jesus?

If you presume your Salvation you reject the gift of Hope.

Hope is a gift? Chapter and verse please...

Besides, we don't presume salvation. We trust God to keep his word when He promises us something. It's called *faith*.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Hoping for salvation is a sure sign a person doesn't have it.

Our salvation doesn't start when we die. It starts when we repent and believe. Now. Here on earth.

It just reaches it's fulfillment when we die.

A person who does not have salvation before they die goes to hell when they do. Nobody gets it after.

1,303 posted on 06/06/2013 12:31:09 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"Of course not all are saved. Not everyone wants to be saved. It's not granted automatically."

We have and will continue to have the opportunity to choose or reject Salvation many times every day until the moment of our deaths.

"Hope is a gift? Chapter and verse please..."

"This Spirit he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life." - Titus 3:6-7

Hope. infused in Grace, is a theological virtue because its immediate object is God, just like the other two infused theological virtues of faith and charity. Hope reminds us that we are not home on this earth, but rather, on a journey to God. Hope, which is also a grace that we receive by asking, both compels and leads us on, reminding us constantly that God is faithful and that His promises will be realized if we persevere in the faith. Hope is nourished by faith which leads to it.

When we succumb to presumption or despair we sin against hope.

Peace be with you.

1,308 posted on 06/06/2013 9:41:23 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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