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Vatican Fresco Cleaning Reveals Images of Native Americans
John Thavis blog ^ | 4/28/13 | John Thavis

Posted on 04/30/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by marshmallow

It hasn’t drawn much attention yet, but the Vatican has quietly announced the discovery of what it believes is the first artistic representation of native Americans.

A detail of a fresco by the Renaissance artist Pinturicchio, discovered during restoration work in the Vatican Museums, depicts men dressed only in feathered headdresses who appear to be dancing, and another on horseback.

The painting was completed in 1494, shortly after Christopher Columbus returned from the New World with a detailed description of natives who painted themselves, danced and gave gifts of parrots.

For hundreds of years, the frescoed figures were hiding in plain sight – sort of. They are part of the background in a lunette fresco titled “The Resurrection,” noted for its depiction of Pope Alexander VI, the infamous Rodrigo Borgia, who was elected in 1492.

The detail was obscured by centuries of soot and grime, and came to life only recently when the fresco underwent a careful cleaning by Museum experts.

Vatican Museum director Antonio Paolucci announced the discovery in an article published April 27 by the Vatican newspaper. He stopped short of saying definitively that the figures depicted American Indians, but the newspaper headline was less cautious, proclaiming: “Here is the first image of the native Americans described by Columbus.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: americanindians; art; godsgravesglyphs; vatican
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1 posted on 04/30/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The figures look African to me . .


2 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: marshmallow

Where did the Indians get the horses?


3 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:42 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Yeah, I was just about to comment on that myself.


4 posted on 04/30/2013 10:52:30 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ßuddaßudd

That little guy in front doesn’t look so African ...


5 posted on 04/30/2013 10:54:50 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: IMR 4350

“Where did the Indians get the horses?”
From the Spanish 200 years after that was painted.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 10:56:17 AM PDT by MCF
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To: MCF

Time to break out the “it must be aliens” guy.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: marshmallow

Hey! Is that that Collins guy?


8 posted on 04/30/2013 10:59:11 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: IMR 4350

The artist may have inferred that horses were everywhere. It probably took more than two years to determine that no indians had horses.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods
So the artist was the predecessor of our MSM, just make s@#t up.
10 posted on 04/30/2013 11:06:11 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: ßuddaßudd
They look like Taino Indians ~ the then current invader doing most of the invading throughout the Caribbean until the Spanish speakers showed up to do the jobs the native peoples were not up to!

Ancient story ~ but here the illegal aliens painted some paintings and that's the way it is.

I didn't see a horse in the inset shown above but Columbus, et al, always took horses and pigs with them wherever they went. 20 years can go by in a whiz and the place is full of them. Next year you'd have hots up to your armpits too! The Spanish and other explorers also distributed goats because they can live where even rats starve to death.

11 posted on 04/30/2013 11:07:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marshmallow

Chief Wahoo, is that you?


12 posted on 04/30/2013 11:08:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IMR 4350

Well, think for a minute how common horses must have been in Rome at the time. It might have been inconceivable that horses weren’t everywhere. I can’t fault him for making a reasonable inference.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 11:11:45 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: marshmallow

I see a fox or deer head and a raccoon.

No horses.

And they don’t look “African”.

Stupid ain’t a virtue.


14 posted on 04/30/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: IMR 4350
The bright orbs behind them are obviously spacecraft coming to help Jesus ascend into the 5th dimension where he will commune with the reptilians from the planet Rigel 7...



15 posted on 04/30/2013 11:18:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: muir_redwoods

If he got enough info about the Indians being there and how they were dressed from the reports of CC, I’d think CC also would have reported they had no horses.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 11:19:17 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: marshmallow

Oh and there’s a cat next to the wolf/fox head ;-)


17 posted on 04/30/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: VanDeKoik

There’s the answer how the horses got there.


18 posted on 04/30/2013 11:22:22 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: wolficatZ

That’s not a cat. It’s a Viking Kitten.

Well before Columbus.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 11:26:23 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: IMR 4350

Sometimes it’s easier to notice what is there vs what’s missing. Also there’s no evidence he talked directly to Columbus. It could have been third, forth or fifth hand information.


20 posted on 04/30/2013 1:00:45 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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