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To: greyfoxx39

Agree to disagree.

Their belief that I will burn in hell if I don’t believe as they do does nothing to put me there, any more than your similar belief about them of itself has any effect on their ultimate fate.

I’m curious if you are equally offended by Jews who believe Christ was a false prophet, many of whom have said some remarkably impolite things about Him over the centuries. Do you think Jews who are horribly offended by Christian attempts to convert them are justified? How about similar Muslim reactions? I’m not talking about violent physical reactions, just offense that someone has made an attempt to share their faith.

I must agree with you in that I find your position odd. Possibly you are correct in how most Christians would respond, but to my mind it’s still an odd reaction.


54 posted on 03/12/2013 2:22:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“Their belief that I will burn in hell if I don’t believe as they do does nothing to put me there, any more than your similar belief about them of itself has any effect on their ultimate fate.”


Mormons are generally universalist, at least eventually. Even people just trapped in “spirit prison” have a chance afterwards to leave it, including Hitler. According to them, there are three heavens. The terrestrial, Telestial and the Celestial. Only the worthy Mormons will ascend to the Celestial heaven to dwell with God, where they themselves will be united with their families and will continue onward and onward to become gods of their own planets. Everyone else gets sorted into the lower heavens, where “hell” is essentially to be eternally envious of the Mormons who were good and obedient enough to become gods.

This, of course, is not Biblical, as Christ is quite clear that the elect dwell with Christ forever in heaven, and the damned in everlasting fires of torment where their worm dieth not. Since salvation is by the grace of God, there is no one being “good enough” to achieve their own salvation or godhood. Plus there is only one God, neither is there marriage in heaven.

From the Biblical perspective, we can be quite confidant that Mormonism is a damning religion, because it preaches a false Gospel, denies the true horror of sin and the depravity of man, denies who Christ is and His mission, and renders salvation a matter of racing to be a God of your own planet or else eternally being envious of Mormons in your lesser Gentile heaven.

Here’s Paul on the matter:

Gal 1:5-9 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (6) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


62 posted on 03/12/2013 3:13:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Sherman Logan
Do you think Jews who are horribly offended by Christian attempts to convert them are justified?

When they or the Muzzies start claiming that THEY are the only 'christians' in the world...

108 posted on 03/12/2013 7:24:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan
I must agree with you in that I find your position odd.

Even the LAW recognizes that there are such things as 'fighting words'.

That you are not disturbed by them is commendable.


http://www.google.com/search?q=legality+of+%27fighting+words%27&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475

110 posted on 03/12/2013 7:26:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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