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To: CynicalBear
"Now why is it that Catholics always go with the works based salvation thing?"

The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works. Works, the corporeal and spiritual works of mercy that are the Fruit of the Holy Spirit, are the evidence of the presence of the Holy Spirit in the heart of the believer. When there are no good works in your life the Holy Spirit is absent too.

Peace be with you

2,302 posted on 01/19/2013 1:48:04 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

Paul taught that works are of God's creation and not our own. Any works we create outside of that are done in vain.

Paul also taught that the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. I am surprised that the Church would teach something that conflicts with what Paul taught.

2,310 posted on 01/19/2013 2:03:39 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Natural Law

Oh that’s funny. Do Catholics not see the difference between works that are a result of salvation and works to earn salvation. Why would one make a comment like “I hope you have done enough of………”) if ones salvation is not contingent on works? So how much is enough per the RCC? Is there a check off system or is that why Catholics never know whether they are saved or not?


2,311 posted on 01/19/2013 2:06:28 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

Not surprised the counterfeit church would teach that - it's only doing it's job - to prevent as many as they can from attaining salvation.

GOD: - "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

ROME: Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

2,363 posted on 01/19/2013 11:49:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Natural Law
The Church does not teach that works are the cause of Salvation, but Salvation is impossible apart from good works.

Just, like, MORMONism.

2,376 posted on 01/20/2013 4:53:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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