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Catholics, Protestants, and Immaculate Mary
The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8, 2012 | David G. Bonagura, Jr.

Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer

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To: narses
And THAT coming from someone who said but I will respond to anything of substance and not repetitive.

LOL!!

701 posted on 12/12/2012 9:46:20 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: annalex
My point is not so much to impugn Luther

YOU can't - He's already HOME. You are impugning yourself - so knock yourself out!

702 posted on 12/12/2012 9:53:18 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; Elsie; annalex

I have enjoyed all of this thread, and have been reading as rapidly as I can to catch up. Post 666 sums up the RCC in a nutshell. A word means nothing except what the RCC says it means, except when it doesn’t!

I remember somebody “testifying”. ... “it depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is...”! Same, same, ...shame on them!

It is difficult to overcome a lifetime ritualistic lifestyle, and many people will end up in hell because they “can’t see the forest for the trees”! For another example, see Islamists. At least the RC’s no longer allow torture and burning deaths ( which they will deny even happened).

My dime’s-worth (inflation, ya’ know)...


703 posted on 12/12/2012 10:32:05 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: WVKayaker
have been reading as rapidly as I can to catch up

better than me, I'm just doing spot posts. Now I'll check out 666!

My dime’s-worth (inflation, ya’ know)...

It's better than my 2 cents! ;) Thanks for your input.

704 posted on 12/12/2012 10:39:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: WVKayaker

666 - exactly! Their own teachings/doctrines, their own church, their own language, their own interpretation - all worldly and all gibberish!

You can bring a horse to water but you can’t make him drink it. They aren’t thirsty for TRUTH.


705 posted on 12/12/2012 10:49:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; annalex

Paul addressed those proud Romans...

Romans 8: 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you.

12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba,[g] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. ...NIV

...for the complete text and references-
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8&version=NIV


706 posted on 12/12/2012 11:02:08 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: annalex
You are entitled to your opinion.

According to you, it's about opinion. According to me it's about TRUTH!

Are you Catholic or what is your knowledge of monasticism deriving from?

What does being Catholic have to do about TRUTH? Nothing!

Jesus is the The Way, THE TRUTH, the Life! There is ONLY ONE TRUTH - JESUS, The WORD.

They forbid people to marry...

"They" have a seared consciences and are hypocritical liars. So what they forbid is coming from a liar.

" Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." 2 Tim 4:2

"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 2 Tim 4:3

707 posted on 12/12/2012 11:17:14 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: WVKayaker

Romans is done masterfully by Paul as the Spirit led him. It tells us, Holy Spirit filled Christians, (God’s children) who we are ‘in Christ’! And I say ‘AMEN’!!


708 posted on 12/12/2012 11:36:13 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212
I do understand that development...

I sure don't!

Why did the 'church' need to DEVELOPE; if it was the way JESUS set it up?

709 posted on 12/13/2012 3:59:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Rome is the supreme authority for Christians on earth

Does BITE ME sound a bit harsh?

710 posted on 12/13/2012 4:00:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
“a fanatic’s weakness is that he harbors secret doubts”.

another:

Ignorance is a terrible thing to lose.
For once you do; you can never get it back.

711 posted on 12/13/2012 4:02:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stfassisi
Got any evidence that satan cures cancer like your fellow cohorts are saying?

Since you do not wish to ANSWER a question, but ask another; I'll follow your example and ask, "Does Satan CAUSE cancer?"

712 posted on 12/13/2012 4:05:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stfassisi
A non answer means you doubt your faith.

A statement like this makes me DOUBT you passed Logic 101.


But, back to your question: Do not my posts indicate just what I am?

713 posted on 12/13/2012 4:07:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses

Like my cellphone’s unlimited minutes; your use of this cute cereal box must be quite similar.

I’d like to be the one collecting royalties for it!


714 posted on 12/13/2012 4:10:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
It's like the Internet.

Once CONTROL of the dissemination of information got away from the ‘church’; all Hell broke loose! There was NO way to control the message after Guttenberg.

Liberals have a few more years, at best, of having the 'media' in their pocket; as the 'net will supply the information.

If we Conservatives fail to keep it out of their hands; then the game is TRULY over.

715 posted on 12/13/2012 4:15:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WVKayaker
A word means nothing except what the RCC says it means, except when it doesn’t!



 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


716 posted on 12/13/2012 4:17:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: presently no screen name
Well; I don't care what ANY of you ranters say; I STILL am going to follow Apollo!
717 posted on 12/13/2012 4:19:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: presently no screen name
"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 2 Tim 4:3

Just on FRIDAY (iff'n yer Catholic)

and ALL the time (iff'n yer MORMON)

718 posted on 12/13/2012 4:21:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; metmom

Yes, God heals (I have been healed of a hernia, thank God) and delivers and provides miraculously, and faith for such to presently be seen is one aspect of believing. The other is enduring when healing/deliverance does not come and awaits future realization.

In Hebrews “Hall of Faith,” some “escaped the edge of the sword,” while “others” (key word) were “sawn asunder.” Both had faith, but the “word of faith” movement - the big preachers of which overall testify to a lack of faith in their constant and manipulative fundraising - does not preach the enduring aspect of faith, and which is a mark of maturity, and those who have seen the immediate deliverance also must learn the enduring faith, as Peter and Paul etc., did.

The daily devotional, “Streams in the desert,” by Mrs Charles E Cowman, missionaries who had seen healings, etc. but whose husband endured debilitating sickness for 6 years till death, has edified me in the past: http://forums.christiansunite.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=q2aih07n1t3ldbhtgul7h05jl4&topic=9682.0

But the Lord will come in clouds, not simply physical ones, but in times which will make it seem that God has forsaken His own, thus Jesus words,

“And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? “ (Luke 18:7-8)

And i am preaching to myself as one that needs more faith in my trials, though i have often seen God’s deliverance and providence.


719 posted on 12/13/2012 5:05:35 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie; presently no screen name
I was watching FoxNews last night and spotted Santa Claus talking about the fiscal cliff. It was Catholics United (a self-described lay organization) giving out their "social Justice" message...

Santa Claus?

PRESS RELEASE: Santa Claus to Congress: Be Nice, Pass Tax Cuts for 98 Percent of Americans

Posted December 12, 2012

Father Christmas joins fiscal showdown negotiations, encourages Congressional leaders to remember the poorest and most vulnerable

WASHINGTON – Christmas came two weeks early to Capitol Hill. Santa Claus himself made an emergency appearance on the East Lawn of the US Capitol Building today, urging Congressional leaders to avoid the so-called “fiscal cliff” and get on to the business of passing tax relief for millions of American families.

Speaking at a press conference, Claus implored lawmakers to put partisan posturing aside and work together to help struggling families and not hold out for low taxes for the very wealthy.

“There is still time,” said Claus. “You all know I keep a very famous list. I assure you that I am checking it twice--each day--and very soon you’ll all know who has been naughty and who has been nice.”

Claus, famous for his annual holiday deliveries, said he’s grown to understand many of the families he meets every year are struggling to find real solutions for child care, job loss and medical care, and the “fiscal cliff” is the last thing these hurting families need.

http://www.catholics-united.org/

720 posted on 12/13/2012 5:11:40 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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