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Catholics, Protestants, and Immaculate Mary
The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8, 2012 | David G. Bonagura, Jr.

Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer

Do Catholics worship Mary? This question is as old as the Protestant Reformation itself, and it rests, like other disputed doctrinal points, on a false premise that has been turned into a wedge: the veneration of Mary detracts from the worship of Christ.

This seeming opposition between Mary and Christ is symptomatic of the Protestant tendency, begun by Luther, to view the entirety of Christian life through a dialectical lens – a lens of conflict and division. With the Reformation the integrity of Christianity is broken and its formerly coherent elements are now set in opposition. The Gospel versus the Law. Faith versus Works. Scripture versus Tradition. Authority versus Individuality. Faith versus Reason. Christ versus Mary.

The Catholic tradition rightly sees the mutual complementarity of these elements of the faith, as they all contribute to our ultimate end – living with God now and in eternity. To choose any one of these is to choose them all.

By contrast, to assert that Catholics worship Mary along with or in place of Christ, or that praying to Mary somehow impedes Christ’s role as “the one mediator between God and men” (1 Tim 2:5) is to create a false dichotomy between the Word made flesh and the woman who gave the Word his flesh. No such opposition exists. The one Mediator entrusted his mediation to the will and womb of Mary. She does not impede his mediation – she helps to make it possible.

Within this context we see the ancillary role that the ancilla Domini plays in her divine Son’s mission. Mary’s is not a surrogate womb rented and then forgotten in God’s plan. She is physically connected to Christ and his life, and because of this she is even more deeply connected to him in the order of grace. She is, in fact, “full of grace,” as only one who is redeemed by Christ could be.

The feast of Mary’s Immaculate Conception celebrates the very first act of salvation by Christ in the world. Redemption is made possible for all by his precious blood shed on the cross. Yet Mary’s role in the Savior’s life and mission is so critical and so unique that God saw it necessary to wash her in the blood of the Lamb in advance, at the first moment of her conception.

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This reality could not be more Biblical: the angel greets Mary as “full of grace” (Luke 1:28), which is literally rendered as “already graced” (kecharitōmenē). Following Mary, the Church has “pondered what sort of greeting this might be” for centuries. The dogma of the Immaculate Conception, ultimately defined in 1854, is nothing other than a rational expression of the angel’s greeting contained in Scripture: Mary is “already graced” with Christ’s redemption at the very moment of her creation.

Because God called Mary to the unique vocation of serving as the Mother of God, it is not just her soul that is graced, as is the case for us when we receive the sacraments. Mary’s entire being, body and soul, is full of grace so that she may be a worthy ark for the New Covenant. And just as the ark of the old covenant was adorned with gold to be a worthy house for God’s word, Mary is conceived without original sin to be the living and holy house for God’s Word.

Thus Mary is not only conceived immaculately, that is, without stain of sin. She also is the Immaculate Conception. Her entire being was specifically created by God with unique privilege so that she could fulfill her role in God’s plan of salvation. “Free from sin,” both original and personal, is the necessary consequence of being “full of grace.”

Protestants claim that veneration of Mary as it is practiced by Catholics is not biblical. St. Paul encouraged the Corinthians to “be imitators of me, as I am of Christ” (1 Cor 11:1). Paul is not holding himself up as the end goal, but as a means to Christ, the true end. And if a person is imitated, he is simultaneously venerated.

If we should imitate Paul, how much more should we imitate Mary, who fulfilled God’s will to the greatest degree a human being could. Throughout her life she humbled herself so that God could be exalted, and because of this, Christ has fulfilled his promise by exalting his lowly mother to the seat closest to him in God’s kingdom.

Mary is the model of humility, charity, and openness to the will of God. She allows a sword to pierce her heart for the sake of the world’s salvation. She shows us the greatness to which we are called: a life free from sin and filled with God’s grace that leads to union with God in Heaven. She is the model disciple, and therefore worthy of imitation and veneration, not as an end in herself, but as the means to the very purpose of her – and our – existence: Christ himself.

God’s lowly handmaiden would not want it any other way.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: mary
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To: boatbums
"Modernity being what?"

The heresy of modernism, described by Pope Pius X as the synthesis of all heresies, cannot be examined or explained in a few paragraphs here, but suffice it to say that it was heavily influenced by Protestant theologians and clergy, starting with the Tübingen school in the mid-19th century. Modernist thought is that Church doctrine and dogma can be trumped by personal and societal judgment as long as the intention is good. More than a hundred years ago the Church recognized the dangers of this modernist view and identified it as a heresy.

Rationalism that resides within modernism seeks to establish that human reason is the ultimate source of religious truth. This approach sought to interpret the Bible by focusing on the text itself as a prelude to considering what the Church Fathers had traditionally taught about it. This method was readily accepted by Protestants and Anglicans. It was the natural consequence of Martin Luther’s sola scriptura doctrine.

Modernism, fundamental to the notion of Protestantism, is not identifiable as a dogmatic difference with the Church, rather it is a belief that Church doctrine and dogma, if not outright false, are somehow of secondary importance to it's fundamental moral teachings. It hides in the shadows of every moral issue and dilemma and it is pervasive.

In 1907 the Church published a syllabus of the 65 propositions of Modernism condemned by the Church (Lamentabili Sane Exitu) that is available on many sites.

Peace be with you

621 posted on 12/12/2012 3:07:44 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom; annalex; Natural Law

Are you seriously suggesting that people being cured of cancer and alcohol abuse is the work of the devil because they prayed intercessory prayer to The Blessed Mother?

I really hope you’re not suggesting such a thing.


622 posted on 12/12/2012 3:15:28 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: metmom

It will be the one world religion.


623 posted on 12/12/2012 3:17:25 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: stfassisi

I am not suggesting it..i am saying it


624 posted on 12/12/2012 3:17:38 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"http://www.sspx.org/sspx_faqs/q5_novusordo.htm Quote . . ."

The posting of fallible opinions in contradiction to the actual doctrines of the Church, and in the case of the SSPX in open schism with the Church are hardly validation of your nonsensical assertion. Try the Vatican website or the GIRM if you are really interested in the subject or send me a FReepmail question.

Peace be with you

625 posted on 12/12/2012 3:17:43 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: RnMomof7

Those verses alone would make me cringe were I a member of the Catholic Church.


626 posted on 12/12/2012 3:19:45 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: stfassisi
"I really hope you’re not suggesting such a thing."

Some are betting their soul on it. Pray fro those who refuse to see.

"Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change." - James 1:17

627 posted on 12/12/2012 3:24:33 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: boatbums; metmom

That’s the way I see it also.


628 posted on 12/12/2012 3:24:33 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law

And Thomas too??


629 posted on 12/12/2012 3:26:48 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: stfassisi
....what our Blessed Mother has done for them...

How do they KNOW?



630 posted on 12/12/2012 3:26:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RnMomof7

I’m with you on that one RnMomof7


631 posted on 12/12/2012 3:27:27 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom

I’m just sure there are a LOT of folks who prayed for “Mary’s help”, but never received it.


632 posted on 12/12/2012 3:28:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
...instead excommunicated him ...

Well; he STILL should have been held to his 'vow' of celibacy; right?

633 posted on 12/12/2012 3:29:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
Those verses alone would make me cringe were I a member of the Catholic Church.

And THESE are my I'm a Protestant...


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


634 posted on 12/12/2012 3:32:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
Jesus: Hey guys! Remember that 'Honor your father and mother' thing?

Christians: Yes, Lord?

Jesus: Just make sure you honor mine more.

635 posted on 12/12/2012 3:34:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stfassisi; RnMomof7; metmom

“Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.” - James 1:17

The key words there are “good” and “perfect”. If you re-read the verses that RnMomof7 posted you will notice that Satan’s ministers were transformed into ministers of righteousness. They were deceivers. Still they were able to perform the miracles. Be not deceived, God is not mocked.


636 posted on 12/12/2012 3:34:41 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: RnMomof7; metmom

“Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.” - James 1:17

The key words there are “good” and “perfect”. If you re-read the verses that RnMomof7 posted you will notice that Satan’s ministers were transformed into ministers of righteousness. They were deceivers. Still they were able to perform the miracles. Be not deceived, God is not mocked.


637 posted on 12/12/2012 3:34:50 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law; stfassisi
Some are betting their soul on it. Pray fro those who refuse to see.

And some are betting there eternity on a false Mary and a false Jesus

I will trust the word of God in this

Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

638 posted on 12/12/2012 3:35:30 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Elsie

Could you give scripture reference for that?


639 posted on 12/12/2012 3:36:28 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Elsie
As written: Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.

As taught: Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from MARY anything we ask, because we ADORE HER and do what pleases her.

640 posted on 12/12/2012 3:36:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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