Catholics, Protestants, and Immaculate Mary

The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8, 2012 | David G. Bonagura, Jr.

[mgist]

"SURROGATE mother of GOD might be a bit more correct. "

You are talking about a woman that loves Jesus, and Jesus loves. A woman that God loves. We can agree that she was saved and in heaven, right? Therefore she has eternal life, right? We love the mother of God, but do not put her before God. Love in our faith, is not idolatry.

It's sad that you have so little love, and it seems a cultural lack of respect for family authority and honor. That is ok, but please understand that in many families, including Jesus' Jewish family, a mother has a place of honor. In your dislike and misunderstanding of Catholics, you are demeaning and disrespecting our Savior's mother. May God bless you.

[Elsie]

Nevertheless the Church did what she had to do, under Hitler, and under King Ferdinand and under Roe v. Wade.

And you are PROUD of it?!?!?!

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What kind of 'Leadership' is THIS???

compared to...

Hebrews 11:35-40
35. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
36. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
37. They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
38. the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.

or compared to...

Acts 4:19. But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God.

[Elsie]

We shall fix what is wrong with the American Church...

Are you SURE you ain't a MORMON???

[Elsie]

Aha, good point.

Oh?

Where's the beef?

Where's the EVIDENCE to make this, yet another charge, provable in court?

[Elsie]

Sounds convincing.

See above...

[Elsie]

She’s dead; Jim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0

[Elsie]

“Protestants bear responsibility for not realizing what Catholics believe on this matter.

“Catholics bear responsibility for not realizing what the bible says on this matter.

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They're WORSE than dead: their BRAINS are gone!

[Elsie]

The miracle of loaves and fishes was there to prepare the disciples for that.

{klaxon sound}

Wrong again:

John 14:11

Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

[Elsie]

“..The Catholic church teaches salvation by works...” And then they want us to accept their silly claims as real!

Poor baby; memory is SO bad that you've forgotten that in this very thread; one of your own has said "...grace AND works..."

[Elsie]

the holy Catholic church

Ya can't get THIS right; either??

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives the following English translation of the Apostles' Creed.^[18] In its discussion of the Creed,^[19] the Catechism maintains the traditional division into twelve articles, the numbering of which is here added to the text.

1. I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.

2. I believe in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord.

3. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.

4. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.

5. He descended to the dead. On the third day he rose again.

6. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

7. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.

8. I believe in the Holy Spirit,

9. the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints,

10. the forgiveness of sins,

11. the resurrection of the body,

12. and life everlasting.

Amen.

[Elsie]

Since Christ himself has declared the bread to be his body, who can have any further doubt?

That damn Paul was WRONG again!!!

1 Corinthians 12:27

Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.

[Elsie]

The Protestants have some concept of Jesus as a mean guy ready to trick people into eternal damnation;

They DO?

And here I thought they BELIEVED what John recorded in his gospel: chapter 3 verse 18!

[Elsie]

We should obey just laws and not obey unjust ones, today and under Nero alike.

Well: we'll just SEE how ROME treats Obamacare and it's abortion requirements; won't we!

[Elsie]

At the Last Supper Jesus says "this is my body";

A yearly memorial meal that JEWS eat to remind them of what their GOD had brought them out of and through.

[Elsie]

So who decides which are just and which are not?

Humpty says...

[Elsie]

Because it all comes from God’s Holly word in scripture.

[Elsie]

Remember, we are talking about what SAVES a person...

"BAH!", says Screwtape.

Any fool can get 'saved'; but what KEEPS them is going to be where the rub comes in! See if we can get them DOUBTING. No; it doesn't matter WHAT they doubt; just DOUBTING something. We can work from there....

[Elsie]

We can agree that she was saved and in heaven, right?

Nope.

She is waiting in her grave, just like I and you will be, if He tarries.

[Elsie]

In your dislike and misunderstanding of Catholics, you are demeaning and disrespecting our Savior's mother.

Your analysis of the REASONs for my behaviour will nbot be addressed, as your credentials speak for them selves; but the 'demeaning' & 'disrepect' is in your eyes only.

The RCC has raised her up to where she SHOULD NOT BELONG: sharing GOD's glory.

So anything less than that gives you the willies!