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1 posted on 12/06/2012 3:46:35 AM PST by yinandyang
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He actually did meet all four points. But.......bad for you.
If Christian believers are wrong - nothing lost.
If you are wrong - you have lost everything.
You might do a little more research there!


2 posted on 12/06/2012 3:54:38 AM PST by dgkb
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Jesus Himself gave the impression that the Jews knew who He was (in his parable of the landlord and the tenants); they beat the servants sent to collect the rents, and kill the landlord’s son (who they definitely recognize). Some Jews did accept Jesus as the Son of God (the first Christians), while others, though they knew who He was, rejected Him.

The punishment in the parable isn’t enviable; God will decide that.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 3:59:42 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Gentiles are grateful for your rejection.

Israel does get a second chance.

Understand the theology from an evangelical perspective.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 4:01:42 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Messianic Jews surely believe in Jesus.


5 posted on 12/06/2012 4:04:43 AM PST by Truth2012
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They will.


7 posted on 12/06/2012 4:10:40 AM PST by txrefugee
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OK, Now that I know why Jews don’t believe in Jesus, someone please tell me why American Jews believe in Obama.


8 posted on 12/06/2012 4:12:36 AM PST by Venturer
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Even if Jews at the time of Christ did not believe Him to be the Messiah, I figure 2,000+ years without any more prophets would pretty much settle the question for any objective person.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 4:13:03 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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One of the greatest gifts a man can give another man is to accept that he reveres his religion as you do yours. Right now in the world, only Islam does not allow others their life and liberty. But when our pilgrims left Europe, that was not true.

Jews think Christianity is great — for Christians. We love your devotion, honesty, and kindness.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 4:16:22 AM PST by Yaelle
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Why Jews Don’t Believe In Jesus & Why Muslims Don’t Believe In Jesus.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 4:16:27 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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There are so many mistakes in that article, I am very surprised that Aish published it. Having said that, there are reasons, many, why Hebrews do not accept Jesus as the messiah but I will not dis those who do.
And for the record, there is no such thing as a messianic jew. You can be one or the other, but not both.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 4:17:20 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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Obvious Christian premise. Jews look for a Messiah, not THE Messiah.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 4:35:58 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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It is impossible to be Jewish and accept Jesus as Christians do. Does anyone really not understand this?

This notion that one better accept Jesus just in case is sad to me. Anyone who wants to impose their beliefs as universal truths are wasting everyone’s time.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 4:39:10 AM PST by sakic
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It is impossible to be Jewish and accept Jesus as Christians do. Does anyone really not understand this?

This notion that one better accept Jesus just in case is sad to me. Anyone who wants to impose their beliefs as universal truths are wasting everyone’s time.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 4:39:38 AM PST by sakic
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The entire history of the Jews is one of them running away and rejecting the God who delivered them from slavery in Egypt. Why should we believe it would be any different with regard to their Messiah. God has hardened their heart now, until the times of the Gentiles have been fulfilled.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 5:00:06 AM PST by circlecity
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If the Messiah has not come than how do you deal with Daniel 9..... Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which causeth appalment.'

From the day of that declaration the period of time ended when Jesus came into Jerusalem riding on a colt. He was "cut-off" (executed)in the midst of the week (Wednesday) was in the grave 3 days (remember Jonah) and after His resurrection was denied by the Jews. Now most importantly the city was destroyed! The prophet Daniel said it would happen AFTER the Messiah was cut-off!!! Hello - THE CITY WAS DESTROYED IN 70AD!!!

22 posted on 12/06/2012 5:26:16 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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I grew up in south Georgia, and our next door neighbours were Jewish. Guy had red hair, blue eyes and a Polish last name. Wish I could have spent more time talking to him.

I did talk to a professor I had, and of course the first thing he said was 'I'm not a rabbi'. The concept of Messianic Judaism just seems to make sense to me. This professor said, 'We have a word for those people - Christians.'

I later talked to an actual rabbi who confirmed my professor's claim. So I'm still searching. I grew up mainly in the Presbyterian church. Sorry if this post kinda rambled.

31 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:29 AM PST by real saxophonist (Stay In The Fight)
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bflr


34 posted on 12/06/2012 6:20:11 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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...How illuminating it is to here about these many different views relating to the Son of God...it is very much like children arguing with a parent about what is right and wrong
even though their perception of real is somewhat biased and juvenile...Jesus Christ is the Son of God , and faith is that which can be breached and slandered , but never broken by the acts of Mankind...you have been given the keys to immortality, however , many will refuse to unlock that which has been placed before them and will truly inherit a different fate which has also been foretold...perhaps its time for Mankind to once again bring forth past events and view them in a new spectrum of light , or will you dwell in darkness forever...


36 posted on 12/06/2012 6:25:11 AM PST by Sophia Androanz ("Once again the Doves are sold in the marketplace")
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We Jews looked upon Yashua as the One to remove oppression little realizing He first came as a “messenger” - then to return as a conquering Messiah to save Israel. The article should have said “Why Jews Didn’t Believe In Jesus” not “Don’t”. As for not fulfilling messianic prophecies read the Book of Isaiah.


42 posted on 12/06/2012 6:42:26 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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All this is true so far as it goes, but the most basic thing is that the Jewish religion is the Torah, which is everlasting and is not a "preparation" for a greater revelation to come.

But good luck in getting any chrstians to actually even consider this. Their most fundamental religious assumption is that J*sus was the "messiah" and they read the Hebrew Bible with this assumption. They define "messiah" by what J*sus did (or allegedly did). So long as their church or their "new testament" tells them that the "old testament" predicted J*sus that is what they will believe.

I suppose you got the usual "new testament" quotations to "prove" that J*sus was the messiah?

52 posted on 12/06/2012 8:08:13 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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