Posted on 11/28/2012 6:00:38 PM PST by Colofornian
http://www.lds.org/church/news/mormonor ... c?lang=eng
How about being straight up and saying that Mormons put on costumes and chant rituals in secret buildings that only 10% of gross earnings paid as "tithes" allow entrance?
Mormonism wants people to think they are normal that they are just Christians like everyone else. Each year they get rid of more and more of their embarrassing doctrines - or doctrines that aren't politically correct anymore. Apologist attack dogs fight any critics on technicalities.
Mormonism has one thing that works for them - and that is the funneling of cash from members to the Cult coffers. This is done through mandatory tithe. And in order to make this tithe work - and make the member believe in the Cult enough to pay - they have to have the secret temple ceremonies. You have to put a ton of make believe in there.
Stephen R. Donaldson is one of my favorite authors. In one of his series of books he explained how a great and noble group of leaders were slowly corrupted through the centuries by simple infiltration of ideas. The ideas changed the group slowly until they went from helping people to human sacrifices. The new leaders of the group knew what was going on - but they surrounded themselves with those who only had faith - not knowledge. Those who had faith were much stronger because they were driven by the new cult. Those who held faith were much easier to control.
Pondering the story Donaldson had written I saw the same manifested in the Cult of Mormonism. If you have members who are so convinced you are the one and only true Cult, they will not hesitate to open their pocketbooks and hand over everything. Mormonism needs this kind of special, secret, garment wearing, new name, pay lay ale - in order to keep the tithes flowing. If the cat is out of the bag, the tithing will stop.
So the reality is there is a certain point where Mormonism must stop moving towards Christianity - it has to because money is ultimately the top priority of the Cult. Money - Power - Control.
Look at all the recovery boards right now - even the NOM boards. What is the #1 topic right now because of upcoming December? Tithing. Tithing. Tithing. Oh and don't forget tithing. Sign up for tithing settlement. And don't forget to sign up for tithing settlement.
“All of our messaging is focused on helping people understand that Mormons are Christian,”
Naw, Mormonism isn't a Christian church. It's a secretive Cult with very cultish practices and it has to stay that way - or go broke.
Ok, way better than “burn them down”.
Try to find another way to say it?
It was a metaphor... like “shoot them in the face” means the person shouldn’t be living in our society
Hi Greyfoxx,
My study materials are the Bible and the Book of Mormon, the convincing knowledge comes through the Holy Spirit.
I’m not going to try to convince folks here, but I am just reporting what I have found out for myself.
Best to all,
Normandy
Normandy,
You will not learn the truth when you start with materials that contradict the Bible.
99.9% of archeologists agree with these statement:
Brant Gardner on Questionable Book of Mormon Geography
“Too Good To Be True:
Questionable Archaeology and the Book of Mormon” by Brant Gardner reviews two recent works on Book of Mormon geography that rely on artifacts now proven to be fraudulent.
One of the devastated works, touting a North American model for BOM geography, relies on the ridiculous Michigan artifacts (numerous engraved slate tablets that show Old World symbols and New World scenes).
The other work treats the fraudulent Padilla plates as if they were tantalizing evidence for the Book of Mormon. Gardner’s review offers an excellent warning against the pitfalls of enthusiasm without substance.
So; the Bible and BoM were NOT enough?
You had to flip a spiritual coin called the Holy Spirit?
You DO know that most people; when praying to determine the truth of the BoM, come up with "no; it's not true" don't you?
Besides; it appears you've neglected to study the REST of the MORMON scriptures.
Ping you by mistake
This reminds me of Dr Phil new book Life Code “Baiters”
Dr. Phil On How to Spot a Cheater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22VLf_gBe8
and a very merry Smirthmas to you Resty...
Resty instead of reading Dr Phil’s new book you would do well to read God’s old book, the Bible...
Belive what you want of us but this was a prophet of the Lord and he was right on the mark!
It has all come to pass how you fail to see that
The Proper Role of Government by Ezra Taft Benson-Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyDrC5q6S9o
Seriously?
Well, I am reporting from what I have found for myself from authorized Biblical and historical sources that mormonism is false and leads souls to damnation. I have posted thread after thread of the false doctrine with many replies substantiating that fact and am not depending on my own personal opinion.
Resty, you referenced Jim's post 475 on this thread, but you seem to not have understood it. Your post sure does seem to try to teach the mormon religion as gospel.
Jim states plainly, "I have zero faith in Joseph Smith or his so-called Mormon religion and do not want it taught on FR as gospel."
The Contitution Will Be Saved - But Not In Washington
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxu-zw004jc
Setting the election record straight
Watch Bill Whittle | David Horowitz TV Episodes | Blip
http://blip.tv/davidhorowitztv/bill-whittle-6444929
Not trying to read your mind, just trying not to write a missive that will never be read by anyone because it's too long.
God is. Whatever his true nature is, our understanding or misunderstanding of it will not change that nature. If I try to explain the trinity to a Chinese person who is not familiar with God as you or I understand him, I get the responses I listed before , Trinitarians break the laws of physics, Modalists break the recorded bible and LDS have a god with one mind and three physical presences. This is not my definition, but was what I was told by a Chinese man we were teaching, and he's right. Yep, God may well break the laws of physics as we know them, heck, the history of science is the history of saying, “We were wrong about that!”
Regardless, that is the crux of our differences, a difference in interpretation.
The bible contains the Gospel IE, Jesus was born, suffered for our sins, died on the cross, resurrected which constitutes the only way for men to be reconciled to God, AKA the atonement.
The bible is not everything God said, nor does it completely agree with itself. (Judas’ death for example)
The Catholics and Protestants have added dogma to the Scriptures.
The Mormons took a bit of a different route, but give it a couple hundred years and all this “You're not a Christian stuff will die out)
B “The substance of what we believe is the real test of whether our testimony is in agreement, not the names or outward forms we adopt.”
Agreed, and Mormons do not worship Joseph Smith any more than the Jews worship Moses, Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, beside him there is no other, and that makes us Christian, Un-Orthodox to be sure, but Christian none the less.
Delph
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