considered a mainstream Christian religion
Posted on 11/22/2012 6:48:30 AM PST by greyfoxx39
-SNIP- Though a Romney win, by many indicators felt within reach, it didn’t happen. However, the fact that it almost did - and with very few variables could have - this reality has changed everything for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints (Mormon) – for the good. -SNIP-- As members of the LDS Church have taken increased opportunities to discuss their faith because of interest in Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, over time it became increasingly evident that no matter what sensitive issue came our way, be it baptism for the dead, racism, polygamy, Mormon temple worship, gender equality, etc… the chance to share our faith while clarifying Mormon teachings turned out to be a net positive. -SNIP- This evidence clearly suggests that Mormonism, now, can and should be considered a mainstream Christian religion. -SNIP- We have no interest, other than the hope of a general acceptance of our faith as Christian: to be considered the same as other Christian faiths. We understand that our message that boldly proclaims a restoration of the original Christian Church that Jesus Christ organized when He was upon the earth can be, at first, unsettling – and we’re perfectly all right with such reactions. We want our message to be different enough to compel the curious into allowing us to tell that story. -SNIP- As a Mormon, I see great hope in the results of this election. It has brought Mormonism out from relative obscurity, now clearly to be considered a mainstream Christian religion
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Christians believe that the Christian God offers His Grace with no such human terms demanded of it.
Do you REALLY believe that a few masonic-derived rituals will cause the true God to be bound to the "covenants" promised to brain-washed mormons? The mormon god is a puny example of a god if that is so.
“Another example is that Mormons believe that if a spouse dies - then they will be reunited in heaven. This is in error because Jesus said that we will neither marry or be given in marriage in heaven.”
You are correct in your scriptural reference, but i fear your interpretation is not exclusive of others: i.e., my take on that scripture is that marriages are an earthly ordinance which cannot occur once you have gone on to heaven, but i don’t see where it excludes folks married on earth from being together in heaven.
i believe that scripture goes on to say that those who don’t marry in this life will go on to be as angels of god in heaven.
“When you talk about the blood of Christ - you aren’t referring to the shed blood on the cross. You are referring to the drops of blood that Jesus shed while praying in the Garden of Gethsemane, where he was greatly stressed because He knew the suffering which lay ahead of Him. It was there that He asked the Father if it be possible that the cup of suffering be removed, but He knew the Father’s will and so became obedient to it.”
who was Christ talking to when he asked His Father to remove this cup, but thine will be done? was Christ talking to Himself or to His Father in Heaven?
I’m not assuming that all who call themselves Christians are going to make it to heaven either. I’m going on the scripture where Jesus said:Matthew 7:22:
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out demons? and in your name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23: “And then will I declare unto them, “I never knew you, depart from me you workers of iniquity.”
Read Matthew 7:22 & 23. That should give you a clue.
Jesus was talking to God the Father in this particular verse. This has nothing to do with the reference I made to the shed blood of Christ on the cross. Jesus was and is God the Son, and, of course, He wasn’t praying to Himself. He became man to obey His Father’s will, and die for our sins, so that we have forgiveness of sin.
I was referring to the Mormon belief of the shed blood of Christ not being the blood shed on the cross, but rather the great drops of blood he sweated during His anguish in the Garden of Gethsemane.
The Bible says that we will know as we were known. I’m not sure if it means we will remember someone as having been our spouse or not. I might think so, however, that doesn’t mean that in heaven a couple will remain as a married couple.
I was referring to what the Mormons believe that they will be reunited in heaven in marriage to their spouses who have passed.
“Also, when Jesus was baptized - he came up out of the water, the Father spoke from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove. Another example of the trinity.”
Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he [Jesus] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This [Jesus] is my [God’s] beloved Son, in whom I [God] am well pleased.
Was the Holy Spirit descending on Christ as he came out of the water, just Christ or God The Father descending on himself?
was Christ a ventriloquist speaking as God the Father as Christ ascended out of the water after being baptized by John The Baptist?
why do my fellow Christians make the nature of the Godhead so complicated? it seems obvious to me as a Christian that God The Father looked down from Heaven and declared that he was well pleased, not in himself, but in His Son, Jesus.
3 separate beings having one purpose seems to fit Occam’s razor’s approach to finding the answer to puzzling questions.
I’m certainly glad to hear that you came to the knowledge of the truth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This is what I was referring to when I said once a person is born again, he/she can’t or shouldn’t remain ignorant of the Word, because the Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth.
Yes, it was God the Holy Spirit who impregnated Mary - not God the Father. However, as you said - God is 3 in one - not 3 separate Gods. Just as we are triune beings - flesh, soul and spirit, but people only see us as one - and that is the fleshly person. That’s the simplest way I know to help people understand the Trinity - it definitely is a mystery.
What we need to realize is that Christ loves all - but hates sin. He died for all of us. The point that many Christians miss is that Jesus loves the sinner as much as He loves us and died for them as well. Some tend to forget from whence they came and that all were sinners saved by grace. Not works - but grace. Good works are something we do as a result of conversion, however, they will never save us nor can we find favor with God because we do them.
I’m curious how you found the Lord and what led you out of the Mormon group?
Why are you unwilling to tell me directly?
Hmm, that’s interesting. I believe the Scriptures teach us to be holy as Christ is holy. He was pure and the only one who could atone for the sins of mankind. Mercy, these people need prayer.
Tell you what directly? This thread is getting very long and I lost track of the reference.
My post #62
Ok, I found your reference. You want to know what happens to everyone else. Like I said: read Matthew 7:22 & 23.
The Lord quite understands that when we are born again that we are brand new baby Christians, and we aren’t able to handle deep things of the Word. So, we drink milk, until we are able to partake of the meat of the Word - in other words - we grow in our knowledge and understanding, but we must remain in prayer so that we can be guided into what the Lord wants us to learn and that includes some ignorance that most of us have or had. It also means that some things we believed or didn’t believe may not necessarily be truth. So we must remain open to what He wants to teach us
However, once the Lord shows us something as being true, if we choose to not believe it then we remain in ignorance and can fall into error and be deceived.
I hope this answers your question. I’m not God, and I don’t presume to know anyone’s final destination. However, I only know what I know and what Jesus, the apostles and prophets taught. I’m still learning so much and don’t presume to have all the answers. If I did, then I would be God - for He has all wisdom and knowledge, and we only know in part.
All religion is opinion. Of course, everyone believes their particular opinion is the “truth.”
Well, that’s just your opinion.
Lol....touché !!
considered a mainstream Christian religion
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