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To: Tennessee Nana; Lazamataz

One more thing:

The very next time I see those clean cut and wholesome looking boys riding their bikes in my neighborhood, I am going to invite them in for lunch or dinner. I want to hear from them what they **really** believe because the fruits of the lives of the few Mormons I know very casually doesn’t match up with the hateful venom posted here.

314 posted on 11/11/2012 5:07:44 PM PST by wintertime

Be sure and ask them direct questions like I did with the Mormon I worked with and he confirmed, that yes, Mormons do believe that Jesus is the half-brother of Lucifer, aka Satan.

Total blasphemy.

They also teach that He was not virgin born, IWO, God had sex with Mary. Another critical point as that means He is a separate being from God, a created being.

That then, forces anyone who claims to put their trust in him for salvation to violate the second commandment, which is Exodus 20:1-3 And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me." because if Jesus is a separate entity, then going through him for salvation is putting another god before God.

If Jesus is God Incarnate, then that isn't an issue.

324 posted on 11/11/2012 5:27:47 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)

Well, indeed invite them in. (I always do)

We have great convos...but beware...same vocab; different twists of meaning...

Example: Joseph Smith claimed damnation = "damned up"...meaning eternal damnation was temporary...

As to "fruits" -- keep in mind that a person will be on their best outward behavior when they're auditioning for godhood...

Jesus soundly condemned the inward aspects of the legalistic Pharisees -- all the while even complimenting at one point their outward works...saying that unless a person's righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees, they would in no wise inherit eternal life.

325 posted on 11/11/2012 5:28:09 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)

I’m sure they will thank you for your kindness. I was an LDS missionary back in the 1980s and remember well some very pleasant and interesting times with people who invited us in to eat and talk.

339 posted on 11/11/2012 5:45:10 PM PST by Normandy

Actually about a month ago I sat next to 2 of them in McDonalds...

we had quite a chat ..

I told them about Joseph Smith and his adultry and his lies and they told me I was right...

They hadnt known long about the treuth but I knew way too much for them to deny it...

some of the things I said didnt go over too well but they promised to look up what I said in the internet...

they were strangers to one another having only just got together 2 days before...

One was finishing his ordeal the other was had 6 months time in...

they told me the companions and “mission” places are changed every 6 weeks right now...

its something new

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

I said that they wouldnt get to know their companion very well before theyhad to move on...

They admitted it was lonely not being able to make vlose friends and then always having a stranger every 6 weeks...

I told them what I knew of MTC and that got their attention...

they said they were told thaty was secret sacred...

I told them what had happened when they went “through the temple’

They wanted to know how I just a “Gentile” would know what was special and secret and sacred to them only

I suggested they search the Internet at the public library..

they said they would...

I dont think they are not long for the world of Mormonism

especially the one who has finished his mission with no wet ones to his record...

I asked how they could afford to eat at McDonalds

they said they were getting a lot more money right now...

bet that changed at midnight Nov 6-7..

and of course I preached at length about who Jesus is and what He did for us and that they needed to get saved if they wanted to go to Heaven and not Hell..

even bright young Mormon boys have a right to know who Jesus is and Him crucified..

...and I think this was the only time that some silly butt mormon kid wet behind the ears and ignorant of the things of God didnt challenge me and my right to preach because I was a woman and didnt have a pesthood entitlement..

They listened and I prayed a lot silently as I preached..

Now Im an old hand at street preaching ...

Get to the guts of the Bible and dont waste time...

sometimes you only have a moment or 2

but they had just sat down with their food and so had I

God sent those boys into that McDonalds to hear about Him not the weather and not an argument...

each time I got their attention with their doctrines and beliefs I let them know what was true in the Bible that proved that bit wrong...

I showed them that they really had no foundation for their own beliefs...

well what exactly did you say Nana ???

It was one of those times you just open your mouth and let the Holy Spirit of God fill it...

It was one of those God ordained moments that make you go home and cry because God used you to speak His Words...

which I later did just that and prayed for them as I do all the time for all the Mormons trapped in that demonic cult...

They even gave me their first names...

But they told me they were not allowed to talk about Romney or the election or say who they were voting for...

I didnt press them...

But I did tell them that Romney was not the savior of America to which they agreed...

I wanted a good solid lead in to Who was and it was smooth sailing from then on...

They were hungry for God...

If ever there was a time for a mighty harvest of Mormon souls it would be now...

Their house is built on sand and it has fallen from under them

Hateful ???

What would have been hateful would have been to leave those 2 lost boys sinking in their damnable cults beliefs...

350 posted on 11/11/2012 5:58:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

The very next time I see those clean cut and wholesome looking boys riding their bikes in my neighborhood, I am going to invite them in for lunch or dinner.

Check the list to see if that is permitted them.

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355 posted on 11/11/2012 6:05:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

... the hateful venom posted here.

You SPOTTED that?

All this time I thought I was using the InvisibleText font!!!

Now you'll probably post a link pointing to it and I'll be all embarassed!

357 posted on 11/11/2012 6:07:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

ahhh, How nice of you to ignore the words of LDS posted here from their own sources and listen to a couple of nice kids who ride bikes and will sound ever so sweet and kind.

Would you consider this venom? "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the Church of the Lamb of God and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore whoso belongeth not to the church of the lamb of God belongeth to that great church; which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth." (The Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10)

Or maybe this? "Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

Wait, what about this? "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christiandom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common orgin. They belong to Babylon." (George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p.324)

Wait, there's more. Joseph Smith: I have more to boast of than any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I." (History of the Church, Vol.6, pp. 408-09).

Those nice boys wont tell you the truth - just saying.

365 posted on 11/11/2012 6:22:39 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)

Have at it. I invite them over for dinner whenever I run into them

Good kids.

372 posted on 11/11/2012 6:57:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)

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