Posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:09 AM PST by Colofornian
MessageToEagle.com - Normally, as a matter of personal preference I don’t get into politics, but when we have a presidential campaign that begins to cross over into the strange twilight zone of religious weirdness that centers on the one person who’s going to control the most powerful government and army on the face of the earth, well, it brings up some unusual scenarios to wonder about.
It is being reported in the media today that former presidential candidate Mitt Romney only wrote a victory speech for Election Day; presumably a harried, last minute scramble to revise his speech was being suggested as the reason behind the Romney-Ryan campaigns’ sluggish reluctance to concede their party’s unthinkable defeat.
Electoral Votes:
Barack Obama: 303 Mitt Romney: 206
Curiously, one has to wonder whether it was Romney’s obsession with polls and tracking data that lead to this overextension of hubris; his unshakable faith that he would be the next president of the United States—or could it have been Romney’s Mormon faith itself that lead him to believe victory was all but assured by some divine mandate?
Ascending to the office of the presidency has always been a coveted part of the mission of the Mormon Church, which began with its founder Joseph Smith, who as a young man experienced a close encounter with a being from another planet named Moroni, who descended from the heavens and instructed Smith to found a new religion (as seen on History Channel’s Ancient Aliens, S3E01)—today, in Ufology, such a happenstance would likely be classified as a contactee CE5 level event.
“I saw a pillar of light . . . which descended gradually until it fell upon me” – Joseph Smith.
In 1844 Joseph Smith, an apparent UFO contactee and the founder of the Mormon Church, brazenly launched his own political campaign for President of the United States. His stated goal was to overthrow the U.S. Constitution, and bring about a Mormon theocracy to the Nation.
Smith’s candidacy was always long shot, but that didn’t stop him from rallying his people to help clinch his destiny to be an independent commander in chief of the “army of God”.
Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not bow to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” He foresaw the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong”—a leader who would “set in order the house of God”.
Smith’s call for a “theodemocracy where God and his people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” evidently did not sit well with the majority of voters in the United States, and brought down a lot of bad press and hostility upon the Mormons. Smith’s presidential campaign was cut short while he was sitting in jail facing charges of treason and inciting a riot; an angry mob broke into the jailhouse and brought him to justice by shooting him to death.
Out of this early chapter of U.S. history developed what has became known in the Mormon Church as the “White Horse Prophecy”—a controversial prediction that someday a great Mormon leader, who, at a time when the U.S. Constitution “hangs like a thread as fine as a silk fiber”, would be elected President.
I know a little bit about Mormonism and their beliefs. I grew up and lived in Salt Lake City most all my life, I sat through many days of LDS seminary at public schools, and I also attended a private Mormon school as a teenager.
My family has roots in the Mormon pioneer heritage and early history. My ancestors, the Neff’s, came to the Salt Lake Valley in 1847, from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. My great-great-great-grandfather John Neff, Sr. settled Neff’s canyon in East Millcreek, Utah. He was also a close friend of Brigham Young and accompanied him into Northern Utah to proselyte amongst the Native Americans there. His daughter, Mary Ann Neff, married the notorious Mormon gunslinger and Utah folkhero Orrin Porter Rockwell.
Orrin Porter Rockwell was one scary-looking son of a bitch . . .
Rockwell served as a loyal henchman to Church founders Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young—and was affectionately nick-named ‘Ol’ Port’ the ‘Destroying Angel of Mormondom’.
In his despicable and sordid history, Ol’ Port was intimately connected to political assassinations, revenge-killings, and gruesome Indian massacres. He’s praised for having avenged the Prophet Joseph Smith’s murder by shooting one of the conspirators with his musket while riding astride a horse.
There have been a few failed attempts in various movies and books to elevate the psychopath to the status of a gritty American hero of the old west —fortunately, none of them have really stuck.
A few of the many curious tenants of Mormonism I heard growing up in Salt Lake City were as follows . . .
*Cain, the killer of his brother Abel, is alive and wanders the earth, wearing no clothing but being covered by hair, and that LDS Church apostle David W. Patten encountered him once; and that reported sightings of Bigfoot can be explained by this story.
*Blacks were neutral in the War in Heaven, and that is why they were not allowed to hold the Mormon priesthood before 1978.
*Albert Einstein supposedly once said that LDS Church apostle James E. Talmage was the smartest man he had ever met.
*The Second Coming was imminent, and when I was age 25 I would be living in the “Last Days” (I’m in my 40’s now).
And here’s where Mitt Romney’s presidential candidacy enters the picture—
I remember my 7th grade LDS seminary teacher sermonizing about the “signs” of the ‘Last Days’.
One of his favorite ‘signs’ that he liked to talk about was that a great Mormon leader would be elected President of the United States, and this would be a major indication that the Last Days were imminent, e.g. the White Horse Prophecy.
Some say that the White Horse Prophecy was written by Joseph Smith himself, while others dispute that claim. According to the Salt Lake City Tribune:
The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy. “You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed,” the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. “It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber.”
Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.
“Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion,” the prophecy says.
Publicly, the Mormon Church doesn’t officially endorse the ‘White Horse Prophecy’ as doctrine, and will deny anything to do with it (just as Romney has whenever it’s been brought up)—however, there’s a telling piece of Mormon dogma that people may find disturbing. It was set in place by Joseph Smith himself, and is referred to as “lying for the Lord.”
As an act of self preservation or to protect the Mormon Church, it is doctrinally permissive to lie about your beliefs or intentions. In other words the ends justify the means. Smith did it with regard to his polygamous lifestyle. Brigham Young did it when he claimed that only Paiute Indians were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
Over and over again, Mitt Romney marginalized his devout Mormon background, and downplayed its significance throughout his entire campaign. But in the 1970’s the ‘Cougar Club’ at Brigham Young University declared their admiration of Mitt and predicted that he’d be the president of the United States one day. According to an article on Salon.com:
…the Cougar Club — the all male, all white social club at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City (blacks were excluded from full membership in the Mormon church until 1978) — was humming with talk that its president, Mitt Romney, would become the first Mormon president of the United States. “If not Mitt, then who?” was the ubiquitous slogan within the elite organization. The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.
With all this in mind, it’s hard not to look back and wonder . . .
Could Mitt Romney have been intending to run the United States as a Mormon theocratic state, as fortold by his Church’s prophet Joseph Smith?
Would a President Romney have executed the will of the people of the United States, and answered to the people—or would he only answer to God via the hierarchy of the Mormon Church?
What if a “revelation” or “vision” was received by the current President of the LDS Church (or Prophet), and passed on to ‘President Romney’ as a directive from God?–would Romney have executed that directive, even if it had gone against the will of the U.S. people, or the World?
Thankfully, this is probably one mystery we’ll never know the answer to . . .
Written by Dustin Naef - MessageToEagle.com Contributor
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No. When are you going to start acting like Him?
In post #256, I asked everyone to read the resist not evil link before replying to me.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2957951/posts?page=256#256
I'll just turn the other cheek with the rest of your prideful and boastful post that pings the world. Look those words up in Scripture before you really make a fool of yourself.
When you people stop crucifying Christians.
Posters who find that contentious town square format uncomfortable should instead read and post to Religion Forum threads labeled "ecumenical" "caucus" "prayer" or "devotional."
Anyone who considers the exposure of the falseness of various cults on FR as persecution is nothing but a liar and needs a good reality check.
Then why do you keep referencing him and encouraging others to read his works?
Because post 256 sure leaves one with a different impression of your opinion of Swedenborg.
An observation is that you were encouraging others to read him and accept his teachings until someone pointed out that he was also a Lutheran, and then backed off.
And now you're NOT a follower of his?
Excuse me if I find that hard to believe that you don't follow him. Your own words make that difficult.
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Are they "devils" for exposing the peculiarities and inventions of Mormonism which go against scripture, deleting portions, adding others, twisting the meanings, making it into yet another works-based theology? (that is, if one were to closely follow the "Mormon" plan of salvation by that cult's own declared doctrines) Are they "devils" for utilizing information from within Mormonism itself to make their case?
One can be a bit turned off by the "piling on" as you termed it. I've seen quite a bit of that sort of thing, myself. [check my sign-up date. I've been a couple of years longer than that] Yet to throw a wet blanket over the entire effort is to prohibit or censor frank discussion, too.
**Kids used to hassle me because of my Church in school. ***
I’ve remember kids on our school bus that I later found were Mormons. I don’t ever remember anyone hassling them because of it.
The most problems came when the LDS and RLDS kids got into shouting matches about who was “correct”.
Joseph Smith established a wholly American religion which we believed was influenced by Swedenborgian missionaries. This should be celebrated and embraced - it is not theology motivated by political pressures in Europe to break from Rome. The Lord works through all men. Just because you feel it is an 'error' tells me you have a closed mind and hold your understanding as an unmovable stone.
Look at our Heaven and Hell Facebook Page - almost 35,000 likes since it was set up a short time ago and growing by more than 100 a day. Be there or be square!
Bingo!
Anyone is free to *celebrate* error if they choose but no true believer in Jesus can.
*Error* about Jesus is nothing less than demonic deceit. It's all lies from the father of lies designed to do nothing less than get men to reject Jesus and damn men and women to hell.
Meanwhile, in Egypt, there has been some report of actual, recent crucifixion of a few Christians. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of those reports, nor can I dismiss them as false.
MM-- when did you crucify anybody? I must have missed that day.
Or should I say "when will you stop"? along those lines is; When did you stop beating up your husband? When did you stop writing bad checks? When did you give up shoplifting?
Sheesh.
I demand respect for my beliefs but welcome any and all serious inquiries. I don't 'preach'. We choose an engaged approach, which really the only ministry that did that was Christ's.
I'm armored up. I'm here to engage the enemy.
Thanks again for your work.
I defend a dead man who is not here to defend himself. Romney didn’t express his faith because this site turned out to be opposition research central. He lost because of fear. I have no fear like that.
Oh, Davy. You are free to believe and feel whatever you want (no one has said otherwise), and those of us who know mormonISM from personal experience and reading their own words are free to expose the blasphemy of mormonISM.
The mormons who left, left because they chose to to leave.
Really, Davy your self persecution complex is worrisome.
Three things Davy, please show these hateful posts you refer to frequently; which God are you referring to (God Almighty, or the lds gods or the all paths lead to god, god that you seem to trumpet). And people call me Cindy.
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