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White Horse Prophecy [Mitt's Loss brings obvious conclusion that Mormon leaders falsely prophesied]
MessagetoEagle.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2012 | Dustin Naef

Posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:09 AM PST by Colofornian

MessageToEagle.com - Normally, as a matter of personal preference I don’t get into politics, but when we have a presidential campaign that begins to cross over into the strange twilight zone of religious weirdness that centers on the one person who’s going to control the most powerful government and army on the face of the earth, well, it brings up some unusual scenarios to wonder about.

It is being reported in the media today that former presidential candidate Mitt Romney only wrote a victory speech for Election Day; presumably a harried, last minute scramble to revise his speech was being suggested as the reason behind the Romney-Ryan campaigns’ sluggish reluctance to concede their party’s unthinkable defeat.

Electoral Votes:

Barack Obama: 303 Mitt Romney: 206

Curiously, one has to wonder whether it was Romney’s obsession with polls and tracking data that lead to this overextension of hubris; his unshakable faith that he would be the next president of the United States—or could it have been Romney’s Mormon faith itself that lead him to believe victory was all but assured by some divine mandate?

Ascending to the office of the presidency has always been a coveted part of the mission of the Mormon Church, which began with its founder Joseph Smith, who as a young man experienced a close encounter with a being from another planet named Moroni, who descended from the heavens and instructed Smith to found a new religion (as seen on History Channel’s Ancient Aliens, S3E01)—today, in Ufology, such a happenstance would likely be classified as a contactee CE5 level event.

“I saw a pillar of light . . . which descended gradually until it fell upon me” – Joseph Smith.

In 1844 Joseph Smith, an apparent UFO contactee and the founder of the Mormon Church, brazenly launched his own political campaign for President of the United States. His stated goal was to overthrow the U.S. Constitution, and bring about a Mormon theocracy to the Nation.

Smith’s candidacy was always long shot, but that didn’t stop him from rallying his people to help clinch his destiny to be an independent commander in chief of the “army of God”.

Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not bow to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” He foresaw the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong”—a leader who would “set in order the house of God”.

Smith’s call for a “theodemocracy where God and his people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” evidently did not sit well with the majority of voters in the United States, and brought down a lot of bad press and hostility upon the Mormons. Smith’s presidential campaign was cut short while he was sitting in jail facing charges of treason and inciting a riot; an angry mob broke into the jailhouse and brought him to justice by shooting him to death.

Out of this early chapter of U.S. history developed what has became known in the Mormon Church as the “White Horse Prophecy”—a controversial prediction that someday a great Mormon leader, who, at a time when the U.S. Constitution “hangs like a thread as fine as a silk fiber”, would be elected President.

I know a little bit about Mormonism and their beliefs. I grew up and lived in Salt Lake City most all my life, I sat through many days of LDS seminary at public schools, and I also attended a private Mormon school as a teenager.

My family has roots in the Mormon pioneer heritage and early history. My ancestors, the Neff’s, came to the Salt Lake Valley in 1847, from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. My great-great-great-grandfather John Neff, Sr. settled Neff’s canyon in East Millcreek, Utah. He was also a close friend of Brigham Young and accompanied him into Northern Utah to proselyte amongst the Native Americans there. His daughter, Mary Ann Neff, married the notorious Mormon gunslinger and Utah folkhero Orrin Porter Rockwell.

Orrin Porter Rockwell was one scary-looking son of a bitch . . .

Rockwell served as a loyal henchman to Church founders Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young—and was affectionately nick-named ‘Ol’ Port’ the ‘Destroying Angel of Mormondom’.

In his despicable and sordid history, Ol’ Port was intimately connected to political assassinations, revenge-killings, and gruesome Indian massacres. He’s praised for having avenged the Prophet Joseph Smith’s murder by shooting one of the conspirators with his musket while riding astride a horse.

There have been a few failed attempts in various movies and books to elevate the psychopath to the status of a gritty American hero of the old west —fortunately, none of them have really stuck.

A few of the many curious tenants of Mormonism I heard growing up in Salt Lake City were as follows . . .

*Cain, the killer of his brother Abel, is alive and wanders the earth, wearing no clothing but being covered by hair, and that LDS Church apostle David W. Patten encountered him once; and that reported sightings of Bigfoot can be explained by this story.

*Blacks were neutral in the War in Heaven, and that is why they were not allowed to hold the Mormon priesthood before 1978.

*Albert Einstein supposedly once said that LDS Church apostle James E. Talmage was the smartest man he had ever met.

*The Second Coming was imminent, and when I was age 25 I would be living in the “Last Days” (I’m in my 40’s now).

And here’s where Mitt Romney’s presidential candidacy enters the picture—

I remember my 7th grade LDS seminary teacher sermonizing about the “signs” of the ‘Last Days’.

One of his favorite ‘signs’ that he liked to talk about was that a great Mormon leader would be elected President of the United States, and this would be a major indication that the Last Days were imminent, e.g. the White Horse Prophecy.

Some say that the White Horse Prophecy was written by Joseph Smith himself, while others dispute that claim. According to the Salt Lake City Tribune:

The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy. “You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed,” the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. “It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber.”

Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.

“Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion,” the prophecy says.

Publicly, the Mormon Church doesn’t officially endorse the ‘White Horse Prophecy’ as doctrine, and will deny anything to do with it (just as Romney has whenever it’s been brought up)—however, there’s a telling piece of Mormon dogma that people may find disturbing. It was set in place by Joseph Smith himself, and is referred to as “lying for the Lord.”

As an act of self preservation or to protect the Mormon Church, it is doctrinally permissive to lie about your beliefs or intentions. In other words the ends justify the means. Smith did it with regard to his polygamous lifestyle. Brigham Young did it when he claimed that only Paiute Indians were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

Over and over again, Mitt Romney marginalized his devout Mormon background, and downplayed its significance throughout his entire campaign. But in the 1970’s the ‘Cougar Club’ at Brigham Young University declared their admiration of Mitt and predicted that he’d be the president of the United States one day. According to an article on Salon.com:

…the Cougar Club — the all male, all white social club at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City (blacks were excluded from full membership in the Mormon church until 1978) — was humming with talk that its president, Mitt Romney, would become the first Mormon president of the United States. “If not Mitt, then who?” was the ubiquitous slogan within the elite organization. The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.

With all this in mind, it’s hard not to look back and wonder . . .

Could Mitt Romney have been intending to run the United States as a Mormon theocratic state, as fortold by his Church’s prophet Joseph Smith?

Would a President Romney have executed the will of the people of the United States, and answered to the people—or would he only answer to God via the hierarchy of the Mormon Church?

What if a “revelation” or “vision” was received by the current President of the LDS Church (or Prophet), and passed on to ‘President Romney’ as a directive from God?–would Romney have executed that directive, even if it had gone against the will of the U.S. people, or the World?

Thankfully, this is probably one mystery we’ll never know the answer to . . .

Written by Dustin Naef - MessageToEagle.com Contributor

About the author: Dustin Naef has been a student of ancient mysteries and the paranormal for as long as he can remember. He has worked in screenwriting, graphic design and illustration, produced and designed video best-selling games, and is currently involved in the production of a film documentary and book about the mysteries surrounding Mount Shasta, California.

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To: Saundra Duffy

You left off a few things. Like you always do. Not that I blame you...


421 posted on 11/11/2012 9:57:44 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Graybeard58

rat another off shoot cultist trying to “fix” Christianity. I will never understand it.


422 posted on 11/11/2012 9:59:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Graybeard58

rat another off shoot cultist trying to “fix” Christianity. I will never understand it.


423 posted on 11/11/2012 9:59:28 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Do you know who Graham is?

He has said that mormonISM is a cult. He has never backed away from that.
Somehow for reasons known only to you, that removing a page during the election that states mormonISM is a cult, is somehow an invitation that Graham has changed his minf - nope nada - he has not.
Sandy, we all get you want mormonISM to be some Christian denomination, but sweetie for over 150 years the leaders of mormonISM has said it is not has no meaning.
The real question is why do they now want to be called Christian when for over 150 years they screamed bloody murder if they were refereed as such.
Maybe you should figure out why?


424 posted on 11/11/2012 10:02:32 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

huh?
Sandy are you fooling yourself?
mormonISM does not teach what you are proclaiming.
So one of two things - you aren’t a mormon and you are just jerking us all around or you are clueless as to what mormonISM actually is.


425 posted on 11/11/2012 10:05:18 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Can I pick, can I, can I...


426 posted on 11/11/2012 10:31:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thank you for sharing that, Nana, it blessed my day! You are so right about sensing the presence of the Holy Spirit when we come to “Divine Appointments” He sets up for us. You were faithful, and He WILL change hearts! What a miracle that we are given the opportunity to participate in God’s illumination of a soul searching for Him!


427 posted on 11/11/2012 10:33:37 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: ejonesie22

:-). Yes


428 posted on 11/11/2012 10:37:56 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: metmom

I’ve gotten quite fond of the “swamp” here. ;o)


429 posted on 11/11/2012 10:47:25 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: DaveMSmith

Have you met Roy Masters?

We discussed him quite a bit here recently.


430 posted on 11/12/2012 4:28:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
... I’m here to ‘drain the swamp’ before I invite friends here.

Good luck with THAT!

We are some of the most opinionated folks on EARTH; and SOME of us have been known to back those up with FACTS.

It can get quite testy at times...

431 posted on 11/12/2012 4:30:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
A black guy but at least not a woman...

My name is Mia Love; and I am a MORMON.

432 posted on 11/12/2012 4:31:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
Condemning is your rules of engagement.

I just HATE when that happens!!


 


 
Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
 


Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
 

433 posted on 11/12/2012 4:33:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I just Googled him (never heard of him) - sounds interesting... thanks. I usually Just listen to Rush. I have Fox News on 24/7 picture in picture on my computer with the sound off unless I’m watching something.


434 posted on 11/12/2012 4:34:19 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith
Christians are not to act like those unsaved on the left.

And just, EXACTLY, are you inferring here.

What ACTS are you speaking about?

435 posted on 11/12/2012 4:36:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
Actually it was wild animals but I take that to mean internals.

HUH?

436 posted on 11/12/2012 4:36:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Re: Matt chapter 23... go and do likewise...


437 posted on 11/12/2012 4:37:01 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy
And we all hate Harry Reid with a passion!

SAndy, SAndy, SAndy...

WHO votes for him all the time?

438 posted on 11/12/2012 4:39:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
That is creepy that you make negative statements about the Rev. Billy Graham

It is with the power of the Spirit of APOSTACY that you make POSITIVE statements about the Rev. Billy Graham

--MormonDude(Girl; does your BISHOP know just how CLOSE you are?????)

439 posted on 11/12/2012 4:41:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator
Got banned for being a Mormon and/or being for Mitt.

Saundra Duffy is an exposed LIAR!

440 posted on 11/12/2012 4:42:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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