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To: vladimir998

You can trash me, but I was very complimentary of her. What she did was rare and heroic. I admire her. However, some here presume her decision to die so that her child might live secured eternal life, but it did no such thing. The Bible contains no “sacrificial death” guarantee of eternal life. There are hellbound pagan mothers who have never heard the name of Christ who would do the same thing. No one here knows what was in her heart, so no one reading my words can know her eternal destiny with certainty. What we know is that she is in the Lord’s hands. He is just and He will do what is right. Of that we can be certain.

When I run into people who presume someone is heaven bound based on a false hope I have two options. I can remain quiet and allow them to continue believing a lie all the way to the pit of hell simply to keep from hurting their feelings or upsetting them. Or I can tell them the truth knowing it might upset them at the moment but somewhere down the line the Lord might be pleased to allow my words to play a tiny part in bringing them to a saving knowledge of Christ. I chose door number two.

I don’t want strife with any man, but because I love the Lord and His gospel, I’m motivated to spread the saving truths found in His word. I can’t stand the thought of anyone perishing in his sin, so I try to tell the truth even when it is upsetting. I’m not cavalier about eternity. I know there is a literal hell in store for the lost. In the end I’d rather be divided by truth than united in error.


28 posted on 07/13/2012 7:00:39 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Who trashed you? You could learn from her. That isn’t trashing you. That’s just the truth.

you wrote:

“The Bible contains no “sacrificial death” guarantee of eternal life. There are hellbound pagan mothers who have never heard the name of Christ who would do the same thing.”

No, actually there aren’t.

“I can remain quiet and allow them to continue believing a lie...”

Prove it is a lie that this woman is heaven bound. Prove it. When you fail - and you will - we’ll see that you’re the only one really being presumptuous here about someone going or not to heaven.

“Or I can tell them the truth knowing it might upset them at the moment but somewhere down the line the Lord might be pleased to allow my words to play a tiny part in bringing them to a saving knowledge of Christ. I chose door number two.”

Don’t let that door hit you in the head. You HUGE error here is that you are essentially denying that this woman of obviously profound faith had no faith in Christ. Again, you’re being incredibly presumptuous.

When I meet people being presumptuous (i.e. assuming they know that someone didn’t actually have faith when all the facts speak otherwise) I can two one of two things: 1) I can let him be a presumptuous know-nothing, 2) I can show him he’s being a presumptuous know-nothing. You’ve been shown. Deal with it.


31 posted on 07/13/2012 7:22:18 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: .45 Long Colt
I can remain quiet and allow them to continue believing a lie all the way to the pit of hell simply to keep from hurting their feelings or upsetting them. Or I can tell them the truth knowing it might upset them at the moment but somewhere down the line the Lord might be pleased to allow my words to play a tiny part in bringing them to a saving knowledge of Christ. I chose door number two.

How can you be so sure that YOURS is the more correct position? Isn't it hubris to assume, in either direction, what God might do?

75 posted on 07/14/2012 10:04:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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