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To: Natural Law

“”Then why do you prone yourselves to and pray to these works of art???”

Well, there is your problem.Catholics do not pray to idols or works of art. We I pray to God and ask our brothers and sisters to pray for us.

Why do you pray to printed words in a book and why are you so angry?

Peace be with you”


Not all Catholics avoid the pitfall of praying to idols, the way you seem to. Mostly, they make the mistake out of ignorance, not a deliberate choice.

One mistake I see being made here is the belief that all Catholics are as one in every aspect of their faith. That simply isn’t true. Some are exactly as described, idol worshipers and ritual addicts. Others are blatant sinners who use Confession with the attitude of “Why go to confession if I have nothing to confess?” And many are genuine worshipers of the Lord, and our brothers and sisters regardless of what they think of us.
For those saying Catholicism isn’t Christianity, that’s bigotry. They worship the same God and believe in Christ, the definition of Christianity. Nor are all Catholics going to Hell. Again, that’s bigotry. Anyone who believes in Christ and repents their sins will be save, or we’re back to salvation through works again.

And that “printed book of words” is the Word of God even to your priests and Pope. If you are truly Catholic, you would understand that. Whatever my differences between their teachings and understanding, we are as one on that.
As for praying to it, I’ve never seen anyone bow before their bible. If I do, I’ll have a chat with them because even that is idol worship.


252 posted on 07/03/2012 5:51:16 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
our brothers and sisters regardless of what they think of us.

Well, Levinfan, I am surprised by this, because on this forum I've mostly seen various non-catholics saying we Catholics are not Christian, or saying we are demonic led etc. etc. One or two are even coolly speaking on this thread.

300 posted on 07/04/2012 12:40:09 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: LevinFan; Iscool
iscool: We have to have a standard with which to prove things...The standard is the scriptures.

Really, iscool do you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior, our Triune God with the Father and the Holy Spirit?

Do you believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth of all that is seen and unseen?
Do you believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father?
Do you believe that through Jesus Christ all things were made?
Do you believe that for us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven; by the power of the Holy Spirit He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered died, and was buried. On the third day He rose in fulfillment of the Scriptures; He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father?

Do you believe that He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end?

Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, One God, with the Father and the Son?

flip-flopping between modalism etc. is flip-flopping

301 posted on 07/04/2012 12:42:09 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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