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To: LevinFan
our brothers and sisters regardless of what they think of us.

Well, Levinfan, I am surprised by this, because on this forum I've mostly seen various non-catholics saying we Catholics are not Christian, or saying we are demonic led etc. etc. One or two are even coolly speaking on this thread.

300 posted on 07/04/2012 12:40:09 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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Levin, I am surprised to see you say "regardless of what they" Catholics" think of us" -- when normally what we Catholics on FR hear from non-Catholics is reflected in post 53 where one non-catholic says The xx gospel is not good news; it’s a soul damning pack of lies containing just enough truth in it to fool many people.... Your mass is rank blasphemy. Your sacraments don’t save. Your pope is the very embodiment of anti-Christ. -- now does this non-catholic consider us a fellow Christian? No. Most of the condemnation that I see on this board is from the non-c way.
303 posted on 07/04/2012 12:57:34 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

“our brothers and sisters regardless of what they think of us. Well, Levinfan, I am surprised by this, because on this forum I’ve mostly seen various non-catholics saying we Catholics are not Christian, or saying we are demonic led etc. etc. One or two are even coolly speaking on this thread.”

I come from a charismatic background that still believes in the Gifts, so I understand how you feel about all that. We’re called holy-rollers and snake handlers. So I’m cautious about attacking any church. look at some of the attacks to me regarding my reliance on the bible. Try speaking in tongues in a Lutheran or Baptist church and see what happens. I understand even some Catholics now believe in the Gifts of the Spirit.
Catholics are also very good at attacking non-Catholics. Catholics tend to be big believers in the all powerful authority of the Catholics church. people find that offensive. You should read some of the attacks against us who won’t follow the Pope or Catholicism. We’re often told non-Catholics are going to Hell.
The pope is not the anti-Christ. My background and reading suggest that will be a Jew.(no, I’m not anti-jew) As for the great whore, I expect that to be a fly by night mega-church.
I have my own issues with Catholics traditions, like baby baptisms and how close many come to idol worship and multi-theism, regardless of how they dress it up.

Nothing saves but faith and relationship with Jesus. Not a million hail marys, or the Sinners Prayer. Many Protestants tell people “repeat this prayer and you are saved.” What is that, but a formula? The same thing they accused Catholics of. People just repeat a chant they don’t understand, then leave thinking that is all there is to salvation. The prayer isn’t wrong, but it is incomplete without understanding.

The church struggles with the world, not because we aren’t united behind on church, but because we war with each other. The early church had great division on many points of doctrine, like cercumcision. But they didn’t feed on each other like sharks..
I say teach as we each understand, and let the student decided. His salvation is in his hands only. None will be able to point to his teacher, “but he said thus.”


329 posted on 07/04/2012 5:47:41 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Cronos
Well, Levinfan, I am surprised by this, because on this forum I've mostly seen various non-catholics saying we Catholics are not Christian, or saying we are demonic led etc. etc. One or two are even coolly speaking on this thread.

Hey, is that another no so veiled reference to me???

The answer is simple...What does your religion teach you guys that you need to count on to get you to heaven???

340 posted on 07/04/2012 7:16:20 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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