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I’m a Mormon, Not a Christian [Mega hit piece on Christians]
New York Times ^
| June 12, 2012
| David V. Mason
Posted on 06/13/2012 7:46:26 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
................... Mormons seem to be everywhere.
I want to be on record about this. Im about as genuine a Mormon as youll find a templegoer with a Utah pedigree and an administrative position in a congregation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am also emphatically not a Christian.
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In addition, these Christians had to defend their use of additional scripture and their unconventional conception of God and explain why they were following a bumpkin carpenter from some obscure backwater. Early Christianitys relationship with non-Jews was even worse. Roman writers frequently alluded to rumors about the cannibalistic and hedonistic elements of early Christian rites. One after the other, Christians went to the lions because they found it impossible to defend themselves against such outrageous accusations. They did eat flesh and drink blood every Sunday, after all.
Eventually, Christianity grew up and conceded that it wasnt authentic Judaism. Lo and behold, once it had given up its claim to Judaism, it became a state religion cannibalism notwithstanding and spent the next 1,700 years getting back at all the bullies who had slighted it when it was a child.
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Whatever happens in November, I hope Mormonism eventually realizes that it doesnt need Christianitys approval and will get big and beat up all the imperious Christians who tormented it when it was small, weird and painfully self-conscious. Mormons are certainly Christian enough to know how to spitefully abuse their power.
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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; catholic; hissyfit; lds; mormon; romney
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To: onetruelord
Romney is not a christian and I will never vote for a non-christian. Its really that simple. So you plan on voting for Obama?
Welcome to Free Republic, I think.
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posted on
06/14/2012 2:52:24 PM PDT
by
Jean S
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To: Elsie
You have a LOT more time available than I; for mine is mostly all used exposing the soft underbelly of MORMONism.
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Your time would be better spent learning about the basics of OUR faith than chastise anothers...
Have you come up why as an "Christian" you have never kept the Sabbath(Saturday, not Sunday) holy as Jesus, Moses and Abraham did?
(No, I didn't forget)
Nope? I didn't think so...
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Matthew 7:3
Maybe you need to to tend to your own house before you "cast stones" at another's
I'm sorry if my focus is ENTIRELY on MORMONism, but the other groups you want 'bashed' on my watch will just have to get their OWN candidate in the race first.
Don't pretend that you only have a problem with Mormons. If a Catholic or Jew was running you would be just a worked up in a knot against them.
Your type has been around for ages.
You have made it a personal crusade "to cast stones" at those who don't believe exactly as you do.
My "crusade" is to burst the hot air from the "holier than thou" types that puff themselves up to be.
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posted on
06/14/2012 3:24:13 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
To: RedMonqey; Elsie
Have you come up why as an "Christian" you have never kept the Sabbath(Saturday, not Sunday) holy as Jesus, Moses and Abraham did? Moses and Abraham were not Christians. Jesus gave the Church the authority to declare the Day of the Lord (1st day of the week). And they did. You may wish to consult Acts.
You have made it a personal crusade "to cast stones" at those who don't believe exactly as you do.
Elsie does not believe exactly as I do, yet I consider him a true brother in Christ; I believe that he reciprocates in that fashion as well.
My "crusade" is to burst the hot air from the "holier than thou" types that puff themselves up to be.
Yes, Don Quixote.
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posted on
06/14/2012 4:27:17 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: greyfoxx39; DannyTN
The arguments have been made, there is no room for excuses, anybody that votes Democrat knows darn well that a vote for a democrat is a vote for abortion and anti Christian values via the Supreme Court.
As to Christians growing slowly etc....The removal of Christ from classroom/public square, the murder of God`s unborn children, same sex marriage etc?? If the Spirit of the living God is in them, they would not support such evils...CASE CLOSED
To: RedMonqey
Have you come up why as an "Christian" you have never kept the Sabbath(Saturday, not Sunday) holy as Jesus, Moses and Abraham did? Sure!
The LAW was given to the CHosen People: the Jews.
I am a gentile.
Read Acts 15th chapter.
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posted on
06/14/2012 8:23:49 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: RedMonqey
If a Catholic or Jew was running you would be just a worked up in a knot against them. I would be?
Can you make any money with this mindreading ability you claim to have?
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posted on
06/14/2012 8:26:02 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: RedMonqey
If a Catholic or Jew was running you would be just a worked up in a knot against them. I would be?
Can you make any money with this mindreading ability you claim to have?
209
posted on
06/14/2012 8:27:22 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
211
posted on
06/15/2012 2:09:28 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie; MarkBsnr
Read Acts 15th
So Acts 15 abrogates the Law of God, written by the Hand of God on Mount Sinai?
By omission?
Well thats must come as a relief to those who dont like the constraints of the Ten Commandments
Of course, Acts and Paul says no such thing just as Acts does nothing to change the Sabbath to Sunday
Paul is simply reassuring the uncircumcised gentiles who are concerned about circumcision, the ceremonial laws and ceremonial sacrifices (the Laws of Men) and not to be burdened by them as they are no longer necessity because of Christs sacrifice. .
Most of those who defend first day Sabbath go to Colossians 2:16. But even there it does not declare a change in the date of the Sabbath, just how one goes about keeping it.
No, the Sabbath was changed but by those outside the wisdom of the Bible and with more worldly reasons.
Try again.
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posted on
06/15/2012 4:14:59 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
To: Elsie
The LAW was given to the CHosen People: the Jews. I am a gentile.
As am I
Under the New Convenant, Jesus and died for all and gave the Law Of God to all who will accept him as Christ the Savior.
Jews dont necessariliy get any special privileges for being the Chosen People in the New Testament.
Jesus is the Messiah predicted in the Old Testament and the he is the fulfillment of the law and the prophets See Hebrews 7-10
But that's just going by The Book(as you insist)
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posted on
06/15/2012 4:19:42 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
To: Elsie
I would be?
Its either that or you have hypocritical standards.
Pick your poison
You cannot use the Bible as a sword to attack those whose doctrine is outside of the Bible on one hand and a Shield against anothers doctrine outside of the Bible but you find favor/or of willful ignorance.
That's the corner you painted youself in for being so judgemental.
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posted on
06/15/2012 4:26:35 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
To: metmom
That is what some term ‘dangerous theology’. When you imply that the human part of Jesus had to pray to the ‘god’ part of his, and if he had to do so through external acts such as prayer, it denies the total intimacy between the two ‘parts’ - that external acts of supplication had to be performed to communicate between the two ‘parts’
The mechanics of the entire thing would also make the human part as crucial as the ‘god’ part. And the trinity would have to rather be termed the ‘quadrinity’ to give full credit to the importance of the human part.
By the way, what happened to the human part?
To: James C. Bennett
Your comments are logically consistent and spot on throughout this entire thread. Well done.
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posted on
06/23/2012 7:05:15 AM PDT
by
1010RD
(First, Do No Harm)
To: 1010RD
Thanks, all I’m doing is asking questions and questioning assumptions.
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