To: ReformationFan
Except of course you are in correct
Since Mark 16:9-20 is part of the Gospel of Mark in the Vulgate, and the passage has been routinely read in the churches since ancient times (as demonstrated by its use by Ambrose, Augustine, Peter Chrysologus, Severus of Antioch, Leo, etc.), the Council’s decree affirms the canonical status of the passage. This passage was also used by Protestants during the Protestant Reformation; Martin Luther used Mark 16:16 as the basis for a doctrine in his Shorter Catechism. Mark 16:9-20 was included in the Rheims New Testament, and in the King James Bible and other influential translations. In most modern-day translations based primarily on the Alexandrian Text, it is included but is accompanied by brackets or by special notes, or both.
6 posted on
06/01/2012 1:13:29 PM PDT by
Nifster
To: Nifster
Titus Flavius Clemens (c.150 c. 215), known as Clement of Alexandria, was a Christian theologian who taught at the Catechetical School of Alexandria. A convert to Christianity, he was an educated man who was familiar with classical Greek philosophy and literature. As his three major works demonstrate, Clement was influenced by Hellenistic philosophy to a greater extent than any other Christian thinker of his time, and in particular by Plato and the Stoics.[1] His secret works, which exist only in fragments, attest that he was also familiar with pre-Christian Jewish esotericism and Gnosticism. Among his pupils were Origen and Alexander of Jerusalem. Source
I believe Clement of Alexandria was around long before Martin Luther, Rheims New Testament, or the King James Bible by about 1,400 years.
9 posted on
06/01/2012 1:21:14 PM PDT by
Hodar
(Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
To: Nifster
Isn't Christ speaking only to the apostles?
Mark 16
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And when the sabbath was past, Mary Mag'dalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salo'me, bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. |
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And very early on the first day of the week they went to the tomb when the sun had risen. |
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And they were saying to one another, "Who will roll away the stone for us from the door of the tomb?" |
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And looking up, they saw that the stone was rolled back; -- it was very large. |
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And entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe; and they were amazed. |
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And he said to them, "Do not be amazed; you seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen, he is not here; see the place where they laid him. |
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But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you." |
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And they went out and fled from the tomb; for trembling and astonishment had come upon them; and they said nothing to any one, for they were afraid. |
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Now when he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons. |
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She went and told those who had been with him, as they mourned and wept. |
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But when they heard that he was alive and had been seen by her, they would not believe it. |
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After this he appeared in another form to two of them, as they were walking into the country. |
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And they went back and told the rest, but they did not believe them. |
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Afterward he appeared to the eleven themselves as they sat at table; and he upbraided them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen. |
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And he said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. |
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He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. |
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And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; |
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they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover." |
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So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. |
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And they went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it. Amen. |
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65 posted on
06/01/2012 7:59:15 PM PDT by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Nifster
I have a Greek New Testament published by the United Bible Societies (edited by Kurt Aland, Matthew Black, Carlo M. Martini, Bruce Metzger and Allen Wikgren), 3rd edition.
It has Mark 16.9-20 in brackets.
According to the notes, these verses are omitted in the Sinaiticus (4th century) and the Vaticanus (4th century), but are found in the Alexandrinus and the Ephraemi Rescriptus, both 5th century. They have notes on a lot of other manuscripts that either have or omit them. It looks like Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Eusebius, and Jerome omitted them and that Eusebius and Jerome reported manuscripts which omitted them, while Irenaeus, Tertullian, and others included them. The Gothic translation of the Bible includes them. It looks like the earlier Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, and Georgian translations are divided.
To: Nifster
INDEED.
And Paul DEMONSTRATED the truth of the verse on the island when he
INADVERTANTLY picked up a snake with the firewood.
And suffered no harm though the islanders knowing what type of snake it was expected him to drop dead quickly.
Tempting God by playing with deadly snakes is idiocy.
67 posted on
06/01/2012 10:19:20 PM PDT by
Quix
(Time is short: INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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