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Ir would seem tham many people do NOT realize that there is an imparting of the Holy Spirit to the child.

No there is not...There is no imparting of the Holy Spirit without repentance...You guys just make this stuff up...

79 posted on 04/28/2012 4:53:56 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
It would appear that you do not know the ritual of Catholic baptism. The words said by the priest are "I baptize thee in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

The child is then annointed with the Chrism of Salvation used in only three sacraments -- Baptism, Confirmation and Holy Orders That mark of Baptism and the Father, Son and Holy Spirit will be with the child forever.

That's why we as Catholics can say to anyone who was baptized in the Catholic Church that they are still a Catholic. The Holy Spirit is still there, perhaps the person has rejected the Catholic faith momentarily, but they will be back. One flock and one shepard.

You also talked about repentance. The godparents and parents announce for the child that they reject Satan and believe in the precepts stated in the Nicene Creed.

80 posted on 04/28/2012 5:23:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Renewal of Baptismal Promises

V=Priest

R= Responders

V. Do you reject Satan?
R. I do.
V. And all his works?
R. I do.
V. And all his empty promises?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth?
R. I do.

V. Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?
R. I do.

Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?
R. I do.

V. God, the all-powerful Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has given us a new birth by water and the Holy Spirit, and forgiven all our sins. May he also keep us faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ for ever and ever.

R. Amen.


81 posted on 04/28/2012 5:30:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Iscool
You guys just make this stuff up...

No, we Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists etc.) do not make up stuff.

We believe in a Triune God, and that Jesus Christ is God. So whatever "you guys" want to believe in, whether Christ is just a prophet second to whatever "prophet" y guys follow, that's this minute cult's problem.

115 posted on 04/29/2012 1:54:59 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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