Posted on 04/27/2012 6:36:28 PM PDT by Salvation
V=Priest
R= Responders
V. Do you reject Satan?
R. I do.
V. And all his works?
R. I do.
V. And all his empty promises?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?
R. I do.
Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?
R. I do.
V. God, the all-powerful Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has given us a new birth by water and the Holy Spirit, and forgiven all our sins. May he also keep us faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ for ever and ever.
R. Amen.
I really wish that prots would start reading the Bible, even once in a while would help them.
Shirley you jest...
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Sorry, but this baptism is the answer of a good conscience...It is something a Christian does in his mind...Has nothing with someone else sprinkling water on him...
The baptism that now saves us has nothing to do with water...
And you are claiming to be a Christian, now how about admitting your error?
BTW waht ever hapend to the plain things are the main things.
In a real version of the Bible it sauys "Baptism now saves you"
There is no error on my part to admit, Verga. The action as described was dangerous and not one to be encouraged. Just one infant death under such a questionable and unnecessary circumstance would reflect badly upon all Christianity, not just your or anyone else’s particular denomination.
And I agree with that 100 percent...However, there is no water in THAT baptism...
Baptism does not mean water and water does not mean baptism...Look it up if you don't believe me...
And yet the Bible tells us about the Ethiopian to whom Philip explained Isaiah.
The Ethiopian saays something like “There is some water, why can’t I be baptized right now.”
So in the book of Acts water was used.
“The Church and parents deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer baptism shortly after birth. “
Utterly wrong. Where do people come up with this stuff?
"... every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins" (Acts 2:38). What sin is the baby supposed to be repenting of?
All Who Believe and Are Baptized
By: Thomas H. Kingo
All who believe and are baptized
Shall see the Lords salvation;
Baptized into the death of Christ,
They are anew creation;
Through Christs redemption they will stand
Among the glorious heavenly band
Of every tribe and nation.
With one accord, O God, we pray,
Grant us your Holy Spirit;
Help us in our infirmity
Through Jesus blood and merit;
Grant us to grow in grace each day
By holy Baptism that we may Eternal life inherit.
Hymn # 225 from Lutheran Worship
Author: Etlich Christlich Iider
Tune: Es Ist Das Heil
1st Published in: 1689
The inherited sin of Adam, as declared by David "indeed, I have been wicked from my birth, a sinner from my mother's womb." (Psalm 51:6).
There are few creatures more egocentric than a human infant. They quickly learn that the world revolves around their every cry.
U’ve sourced my material. What is your source. Paul baptizes entire households. Do you think infants were also baptized?
Of course they were.
Straight from the Bible.
The Bible says nothing about an infant needing infant baptism to be a child of God.
An infant is incapable of making any decisions for itself.
Infant baptism has no bearing on an infants salvation.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion in these United States of America. There are others who believe very differently: http://thedaughterofzion.wordpress.com/tag/john-wilde-webber/
Their trust will be either verified or proven wrong in eternity.
On the other had, on a completely objective level we have this:
Several things can be affirmed from the Holy Scriptures:
1) All are born into sin and are condemned already. (John 3:18, 36, and others)
2) The eternal Son of God came into the world to save sinners, because God loved them despite their sin. (John 3:16, and others)
2) Faith in Jesus Christ the Savior saves. (the same John 3:18, 36, and many others)
3) Baptism is commanded by God for all. (Matthew 28:18ff and Mark 16:16, and others)
4) Faith is not the act of man but the gift of God. (Ephesians 2:8-9, and others)
5) Ergo baptism and faith must somehow be connected in the mind and will of God, otherwise God contradicts Himself in His word.
nonsense...read the book...rules are meant to be obeyed. The trouble with protestants is that they like to do things however they feel like it
WRONG there are zillions of babies in heaven because they were baptized....can't you read???I agree that there are none in hell, but that would imply unjust punishment which God does not do.
oh, please...rules don't matter,??? Christ established a religion for a purpose...you don't get to make up the instruction book as you go along.
Jesus delayed His until He was thirty. Adult believers were baptized after their confession of belief.
first of all, you don't know that...second, and most important, Christ was GOD and He sets the rules, He might even stray from them once in a while like he did for Lazarus.
nonsense, baptism is clearly ordered in the bible. Your tagline explains a lot of what you don't understand.
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