yup, i'm 57 and like you said my Mom wore gloves and a hat whenever we we went out looking 1/2 dressed up or better and always to Church it was a different time for sure
Posted on 04/11/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation
**I remember when young men knew enough to take off their hats when coming inside. **
This bugs me, especially when the men continue wearing a stocking cap in church.
At the dinner table, I think I would politely ask them to remove their hat and then be seated. But I’m old fashioned.
My mother had a beautiful mantilla (a Spanish style lace veil) she always wore that. She wasn’t really into hats, but her mother, my grandmother was. My grandmother had actually been a milliner when she came here from Ireland.
I bet grandma was a good one too, because she would take any little left-over remnant if she made a dress (they made a lot of their own clothes) and hem it out into a little scarf. And then she’d just wrap that around her beautiful snow white hair and stick a big old hat pin through it and she looked as as smart as could be.
I also remember us gals putting little Kleenex on our heads if you wanted to go into a church and you hadn’t planned to be there. I remember doing this with tourists to NYC.
And then I turned 7 and it was all over.
And I have yet to recover from that in any meaningful way.
So, wow, you post touched off a lot of thoughts!
They wouldn't get past the door in my house much less near any dinner table. No manners, no welcome.
“i guess gloves are something not seen in three or four generations then...”
I also remember my mother wearing gloves. When we were little, this would be the early 1960s, every time we went out anywhere we would be looking even 1/2 way nice she’d wear gloves. Not to do errands, I guess, but most other stuff.
And the weird thing was, she wouldn’t wear both gloves, she’d just wear one and carry the other. Even with 3 little kids to deal with!
Well, even I wouldn’t want to be bothered with stuff like that every day. I just gotta say that on this thread.
Church is one thing and yes, in general I’d like to dress up more and restore more formality to more occasions, a big one with me is Thanksgiving. I always try and dress pretty nicely on that day and then I got to whoever’s house and everyone is there is sweats. I don’t judge, but I’m not wearing sweats either.
But I also don’t want to wear gloves for no purpose and not even wear both of them every day!
yup, i'm 57 and like you said my Mom wore gloves and a hat whenever we we went out looking 1/2 dressed up or better and always to Church it was a different time for sure
“Answer: JFK.”
I just really get into these fashion threads. I wish my grandma was still alive, she would LOVE FR!
I watched some docu-something on the Kennedys once, don’t ask me why but I guess it was pretty even-handed or I would have turned it off.
The thing that stuck with me was the difference in dress between JFK’s funeral and RFK’s funeral. Tragically they only died, what 5 years apart? And, admittedly JFK was the President and had a much more formal funeral. And it wasn’t like the family at RFK’s funeral was dressed in any inappropriate way.
But just to see the images it was like these 2 men had died 20 or more years apart.
And it spoke volumes about how much upheaval our society went through in the 60s, I thought.
And not for the good, I also thought.
If you look at the way people dressed 500 to 100 years ago they took much more pride in it than people today. The more I read about the 1960s the more I realize just how much upheaval was occurring socially, politically, economically, religiously and in many other ways at that time.
I used to know this guy that sold formal, dress up uniforms for the military and emergency services. During the 1970s it was the worst time to try and sell this type of clothing because no one cared how they dressed. Since that time his business has improved significantly.
I see both men and women, not all young either, wearing jeans to MASS. How rude and disrespectful.
The Jewish tradition of nice vestments set the tone -- the nice vestments and clothes show respect to our Lord, as do the nice books, chalices and so on.
What do those jeans-wearing slobs not understand about showing respect to our Lord AT MASS?!
“The more I read about the 1960s the more I realize just how much upheaval was occurring socially, politically, economically, religiously and in many other ways at that time.”
We went to a memorial service for my husband’s cousin a couple of years ago, an elderly woman who was probably in her early 80s when she died.
There were many family photos but one in particular was a classic.
It was this lady’s 4 children all dressed up for Easter Sunday, one of those familiar Kodak snapshots on the front lawn of their Long Island home, with just “Easter, 1966” as the caption.
I earnestly wanted to take that snap and put it in a museum with the added caption: Apres ce, le deluge. (after this, the deluge - forgive my french if it is bad!)
But you know I think things are on the verge now. If we don’t sink down into the abyss they are going to get better.
Roe v. Wade may turn out to be the greatest trick progressivism ever played on itself. Because I do think more conservatives had more children than that vast swath of 60s leftists did.
But, you know, we’ve got to keep FREEDOM. If we let our gov’t turn us into serfs it’s going to be the gosh-darn abyss for sure!
God bless her. I remember when women would wear a small kerchief on their heads during Mass.
I also remember that. :-) We didn’t dare not cover our heads in church. And I’m only talking about the early 70’s when I was a young girl. By then, many other changes were already in the works.
See post #9. I live in NJ, too, and I live near a church that requires head coverings. I guess people in other states would be surprised to know how traditional some of the churches are around here.
I noticed the same at our church two Sundays ago. A mother with two young children stood along the side, and not one man offered his seat. I just returned to the church several months ago after an absence of many years, and I was surprised to see that happen. At the time I thought: If my sons and I had been seated ourselves - we were standing, too - I would’ve told them to stand up and offer her their seat.
Went to 9AM Mass on Easter Sunday and one lady out of about 200 attendees wore an Easter Bonnet. Same caught my eye as it was an old tradition to wear bonnets in my time as a Catholic many years ago. I commented this to my wife(remembering how she,her sisters and my sisters wore the most beautiful hats at Easter)and we both reminisced about it.
Maybe I’m old-fashioned (or just crazy) but I think a woman should wear pantyhose with dresses and skirts ,especially to church or synagogue. I do because it looks better.
Here in Warsaw to enter the synagogue or the Cmentarz Żydowski (Jewish cemetary) you need to wear a yarmulke or get one..
Last Sunday in my parish here in CA a young lady entered in a sleeveless dress and one of the senior ladies walked up to her and placed a shawl around her shoulders. The look on the young lady’s face was priceless. Its an awesome thing when the elder ladies of a parish take charge of the young ones and set them straight.
I grew up protestant and as a young man i didnt dare walk into services without a button down shirt and a tie on. Now its flipflops and shorts... Sigh.
Oh well, I’m happy I’m Eastern Orthodox now.
I don’t attend an Orthodox synagogue so the men aren’t required to.
I actually do,as a reminder of G-d above. I like the symbolism.
I actually feel naked without it.
How do you pronounce those Polish words?
Is it a difficult language?
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