Posted on 04/11/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation
Then should the Church let people come in naked if they want to just because they are glad that they at least are attending? What’s wrong with saying no jeans, shorts for men or women, except in the case of children under 6? When there was a dress code for attending Mass back when I was growing up, and that included no sleeveless blouses, Mass attendance was much higher than it is now.
I fight against the jeans and shorts in my family, but it seems like there's always some reason they have to wear something I consider excessively casual. My husband favors camping pants, with zip-off legs. I draw the line at Scandinavian Heavy Metal t-shirts with pagan religious references - solid colors are available, and stripes! - and please leave off the Thor's Hammers!
Even Anoreth, whose religious orthodoxy is unquestionable - go to Mass, won'tcha? - is asked to wear Coast Guard-themed shirts with her desperately distressed jeans, rather than really weird stuff.
There are a lot of women who wear veils at our church — most esp at the Latin Mass, but scattered as well throughout. I think they are pretty. I bought one but have not yet worn it.
At one of our local (predominantly white parish) churches, there are quite a few women who wear mantillas. That’s at the Latin Mass, so maybe to be expected of more traditional type congregants. Similarly, the men at the Latin Mass are mostly dressed in suits. That’s a city church. The suburban church Latin Mass is more casual.
I have noticed a tendency among my daughter’s contemporaries (20-30 somethings) to wear hats at every opportunity. Church, weddings, anything that requires a bit of ‘dress up.’ They love wearing hats. So, it may be a swinging pendulum.
So your assertion is that attendance was higher because there was a dress code? Seriously?
What's wrong with implementing a dress code is that: (a) our job as Christians is supposed to be encouraging more people to follow Christ, not discouraging people from coming to Church; and (b) how is it our business to set a dress code? The Church belongs to Christ, not to me and not to you. If someone comes to my church in a suit or jeans or filthy rags, I don't care, we don't care, and I'd even venture to say that God doesn't care. What matters is seeing unbelievers converted to become committed followers of Christ. If you've lost sight of that because you are too bent out of shape because someone is wearing jeans, I'd suggest that your priorities are out of whack.
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Grew up Catholic in a Jewish neighborhood
Went to a reform funeral service the other day... the rabbi was a woman and so was the cantor and both wore yamakahs. I am so traditonal that it seemed wrong, and it is not even MY tradition.
I dont want to get started about what happened to the Catholics....
I had always found it odd that women could wear hats in church but if a man did it was considered bad form.
How in the world did you draw that conclusion from what I said? No, I’m not asseerting that attendance was higher because there was a dress code. I’m saying that having a dress code did not chase those wanting to attend away, which was the assertion you made in your original response to me. If people don’t attend Mass because they are told they must be dressed properly, then they must not have wanted to go that bad in the first place and are looking for any excuse not to go.
I think the way some people show up dressed for Mass shows disrespect and I do care about it. As far as being bent out of shape, it appears that the one being bent out of shape is you, and you must not like dressing up to attend Mass so this has hit a nerve with you.
Back in the 30's men wore suits and ties to major league baseball games and the woman wore dresses that would be considered formal wear today.
We are becoming a casual society and I have no problem with that.
There’s a big difference between casual dress for church and a well-endowed girl wearing a tank top and bouncing around as she sashays up to receive the Host, another girl wearing short shorts that show every ripple of her thighs, other girls wearing see-through dresses, cleavage-baring blouses, stretch pants that reveal their thong panties, and other garb that is designed and intended to do nothing except create desire in men. We are not there to arouse one another sexually; we are there to worship the Lord. Wearing clothes that really belong on a streetcorner prostitute indicates that you don’t exactly have your focus on God, but that’s not the only issue. If you’re distracting others from their worship with your revealing clothes and trying to even offer temptation to the priest and seminarians, this is a real and serious attitude problem.
A casual society is one thing. Young women who go to Mass dressed like whores and a first lady who gets off of Air Force One with her cellulite flapping beneath her shorts, or who displays her genitals beneath too-tight clothes, are symptoms of the too-casual society we have become.
To each his own.
I’ve never been to an Eastern Orthodox church, but a Brother once told me there are very strong traditions still in practice there, such as bread in wine at Communion.
You don’t have to be Jewish to wear a yarmulke. They are also called kippot.
The Catholics didn’t wear a kippah/yarmulke at the funeral?
Wear a dress for Pete's sake! It's the holiest day of the Jewish year and she's wearing ugly,inappropriate clothes!
Who would’ve guessed this thread would’ve been such a hot topic?
I just remembered: This Easter Sunday at my church, the choir was led by a woman dressed in a beautiful and very colorful long traditional dress - similar to what one might expect in the Caribbean Islands - with matching headcovering that covered her head completely. She probably was Haitian.
I agree. Let God be who convicts those about what they wear or do not wear in "church". We are commanded to love others as Jesus loves them. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
James 1:1-13
My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, Heres a good seat for you, but say to the poor man, You stand there or Sit on the floor by my feet, have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?
If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, Love your neighbor as yourself, you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, You shall not commit adultery, also said, You shall not murder. If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker. Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
Yes indeed there is... we cherish the beauty inherent in the ancient faith passed down to us and we see no need to capitulate to the cheap rock n roll culture of modern christendom. Feel free to visit one sometime. We don’t do high pressure sales. Trust me on that one. With the current suffering of coptic christians I recently visited a coptic liturgy with a protestant friend and we stayed to speak with the parishioners afterwards. It was very edifying for us both. Not to mention the great food they gave us.!
You dont have to be Jewish to wear a yarmulke. They are also called kippot.
The Catholics didnt wear a kippah/yarmulke at the funeral?
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No, no one except a few male members of the congregation wore the yarmulke and the females leading the congregation. I didnt know women wore yarmulkes in services. Heck, I didnt know they led congregations.
when I was young, all I recall all men attending Jewish serviced wearing yarmulkes but not women wearing hats. Of course the orthodox women I remember with covered heads.
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