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To: vladimir998; johngrace

**Nope. It’s a fact.**

So you guys had a security cam in their bedroom everynight after Jesus was born?

**Women do not give birth to flesh. They give birth to persons. Jesus was a person. He was not just flesh.**

I used the term flesh since the Christ used it so often to describe the physical part of man. Mary did not create the soul that lived in that body, nor the divine Spirit that performed the miracles. The body that Mary’s soul lived in was designed by God to give natural, physical birth. All she had to do was eat, sleep, and take generally good care of herself.

We that believe Mark 6:3 to mention 4 brothers and at least 2 sisters would understand how, in Luke where, “TEMPLE ALONE” happened: Mary and Joseph may have possibly had 6 or more children by that time, maybe two that couldn’t even walk yet. Traveling with a crowd with all those kids, the keeping track of everybody may have been a hard thing to do. Jesus was 12 and responsible I’m sure; so for him to be out of sight wasn’t that much cause for alarm when there were the young ones that needed to be handled and herded. BUT:

According to forever a virgin theory, Mary and Joseph traveled a DAY’S journey WITHOUT missing their ONLY child......ONLY the MOST IMPORTANT child EVER born on the planet. They would have been visited by DCFS nowadays for not being able to keep track of ONE child for a full day. My wife says that, nomatter if her only son had been 12 and responsible, she’d have had one eye on her one and only child, and one on everything else.

The juggling of definitions of words, and the relying on traditions of vain men, do not prove that Joseph and Mary slept in separate beds for their entire married lives. The word seems to strongly point otherwise.

To this ‘always a virgin’ matter, I believe Paul would say: “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith; so do”. 1 Tim. 1:4


244 posted on 03/18/2012 1:01:42 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel

You wrote:

“So you guys had a security cam in their bedroom everynight after Jesus was born?”

No, we have the constant teaching of God’s Church.

“Mary did not create the soul that lived in that body, nor the divine Spirit that performed the miracles.”

No, she was just the Mother of God. Jesus is God. Mary is His mother.

“All she had to do was eat, sleep, and take generally good care of herself.”

No, all she had to do was say yes and make herself the handmaid of the Lord. She also had to suffer her heart being pierced. She endured quite a bit.

“We that believe Mark 6:3 to mention 4 brothers and at least 2 sisters would understand how, in Luke where, “TEMPLE ALONE” happened:”

There were no other children of Mary - that’s why Jesus alone was called the son of Mary in the New Testament.

“According to forever a virgin theory, Mary and Joseph traveled a DAY’S journey WITHOUT missing their ONLY child......ONLY the MOST IMPORTANT child EVER born on the planet.”

Which just proves my point. If you’re saying that they lost their “ONLY the MOST IMPORTANT child EVER born on the planet” because of other children then Jesus could not have been all that important after all, right? You can’t have it both ways. Jesus stayed behind. Mary and Joseph probably assumed He was with another relative in the caravan since that’s how things were done.

“My wife says that, nomatter if her only son had been 12 and responsible, she’d have had one eye on her one and only child, and one on everything else.”

You’re wife’s only son is not the Son of God who can make happen anything He wishes. If Jesus wanted to go unnoticed, it would be so. If He wanted His parents to not notice His absence for some hours, it would be so.

“The juggling of definitions of words, and the relying on traditions of vain men, do not prove that Joseph and Mary slept in separate beds for their entire married lives.”

I relied on no “vain men”. The Church is not a vain man, but Body of Christ. I suggest you actually deal with what I posted rather than make things up. I never relied on vain men.

“To this ‘always a virgin’ matter, I believe Paul would say: “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith; so do”. 1 Tim. 1:4”

Right, don’t make things up then like claiming I relied on vain men when I didn’t. That would be making up a fable. DOn’t do it. Heed the very verse you cited. Avoid hypocrisy. It’s not hard.


246 posted on 03/18/2012 1:17:49 PM PDT by vladimir998
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