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Posted on 02/14/2012 4:00:49 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
Now who is the one who brought it up with post after post, 'it's their fault'???
That's a slur.
When some just can't see - cartoons fit the bill.
Disagreeing with you does not make a martyr out of you. Warning you of danger we see to you does not make a martyr out of you
Nor does it make a 'victim' out of anyone. PROJECTION!!
That label isn’t wearing well on you. Let it go.
LOL! More projection!
Making a list, checking it twice?
AMEN!!
I believe no words can do anything here - ONLY the Holy Spirit because some are TOTALLY clueless on the Power of The Word.
Surface readers with no meditation are concerned about you being on a dangerous path!! LOL!
I don’t know about that. When I attended Family Worship Center in 1983, Jimmy Swaggart was Assemblies of God. Either he has changed, his son has changed, or the Assemblies of God has changed.
More than 1 or 2, IIRC. Half a dozen or more, IIRC.
AM QUITE BLESSED
that you . . . and some others . . .
see the same or similar construction on reality I do.
BLESS YOU TONS, DEAR HEART.
I trust folks mean caring when they say caring.
Certainly lots of RC’s did/do not perceive my caring toward them in lots of my posts.
Nevertheless, some of the posts on this thread hide the caring very well. LOL.
I certainly am consistent enough with my own values and style to be glad that anyone would pull out all the stops to try and rescue me from whatever spiritual ditch they saw me headed for.
HOWEVER, WHEN the motivations persistently COME ACROSS AS a decades long pique, anger, hostility, bitterness, resentment toward other religious/spiritual leaders over some chronic disappointments and exasperations—either toward God or the leaders . . . then I become more than a little concerned that the “caring” seems to be all contaminated to saturated with their own personal pique at folks and stuff quite divorced from, having little or nothing to do with me.
In terms of their purported BIBLICAL understanding. I’m shocked that such loved ones could so brazenly set aside so many plain verses and their obvious meanings. I realize that reading comprehension taught in our schools has gone to blazes in a handbasket. However, these loved ones likely learned to read before that rot set in.
It’s almost as though some horrific emotionality and deep seated angst has clouded intellectual and certainly spiritual understanding on some key points. I hate to see that in anyone—particularly loved cohorts of such long relationships. That grieves me a lot.
THANKFULLY, as you seem to well know; certainly Joya knows; Some of the men in our church know . . . THOSE OF US WITH SOLID SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES need not be troubled by folks with mere arguments.
GOD HIMSELF HAS REPEATEDLY MADE HIMSELF; HIS PURPOSES AND EVEN HIS METHODS VERY REAL to me . . . fitting quite well within my constructions on Biblical realities in these matters. How on earth could I go back on BIBLICALLY ACCURATE truths and life experience things that GOD HIMSELF HAS PROVEN so repeatedly in my life!!?!!
Anyone expecting that is barking up the wrong tree.
Like 'manna' in the old testament (foreshadow) kept them well and not one feeble one among them - even their shoes didn't wear out!! -
"My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. For they are LIFE unto those that find them, and HEALTH to ALL their flesh. Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." Proverbs 4:20-23
God/His Word/His Spirit takes care of ALL our needs. Some are clueless on how to turn on the switch - so they never get the light. They keep calling the power company to turn it on. Too clueless to know they have the power - they just need to turn it on! THE POWER OF THE Holy Spirit inspired WORD of God!!
Anyone expecting that is barking up the wrong tree.
Same here!!
I don’t have God in a tidy little box about healing or anything else.
I think Curry Blake has the best handle on that sphere.
I just take Scripture at face value and try to walk it out as Holy Spirit leads to the best of my discernment and His enablement.
That has worked best in my life over many decades.
And, I know Holy Spirit rises up fiercely within me when folks pretend to try and box HIM into UNBIBLICAL ancient fossil encrusted boxes.
5. As well as dangerously close to ascribing to Holy Spirit evil doings—an extremely hazardous spiritual stance and perspective.
Could you show us *UNBiblical* by directing us to the Scripture that supports your point of view?
Such as ....
Where in Scripture is tongues a sign to believers for anything?
Where it's stated that every believer must evidence tongues as an indicator of being filled (baptized) with the Holy Spirit?
Where Scripture teaches that it's a prayer language which has more power than speaking in one's native tongue?
Where in Scripture a prophet is permitted to not be 100% accurate 100% of the time?
Where we are told to seek after tongues, as so much charismatic theology teaches?
wow..... just wow.....
Are what you consider *qualified* teachers the only ones you can listen to?
Scripture is Scripture and anyone can use it to rebuke or correct. It takes no special teaching or training or *anointing* to rightly divide Scripture and point out error to some one using it because it is the truth.
It's based on the truthfulness of Scripture, not the qualifications of the person doing the correcting.
To think otherwise smacks of pride.
James 1:2-4 2 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
Where's your argument?
Meanwhile... It wasn't about teaching you or about you. It was about omitting the first critical portion of the verse you presented, which does clarifiy the correct context in which the verse entire should be understood............Rather than using just a portion of it to support a misrepresentation of the verse by omission of pertinent information, which therefore distorted the truth of what the text was actually saying.
As you know we are accountable to God when false representation of His word is given, especially when it would mis-lead other people into error or misunderstanding of God's truth as He gives it.
As for meditating on God's word. Some things are simply crystal clear without giving deep thought and contemplation to when we are seeking the truth for what it says, rather than trying to twist it to what we want it to say.... which would require some thought and manipulation of the context of the text to accomplish that purpose.
What is so called a new openness.... by allowing God to do whatever he wants... AKA “don’t put God in a box”..... is really spiritual liberalism in disguise.
Certainly God has done many things in the past in unusual ways, often times not the way we would expect....But the issue is not can God do certain things but will He do them..... For He will never contradict His own word or principles but cooperate with it to accomplish His goals.
So we look for His ways that are conducive to His nature to be sure it is God. For if we attribute something to God ...when in fact it is not God,... we have put Him in a box!
Why the wow? Do you listen to 'anyone' just babble on while they show they have no understanding?
It takes no special teaching or training or *anointing* to rightly divide Scripture and point out error to some one using it because it is the truth.
Well I've seen the 'no special teaching/training/anointing' crowd in action - so no thanks. I use the 'author' instead - right from THE SOURCE the way it was meant to be.
Go to a thread where a FReeper is asking for prayer for someone. And that someone is a saved FReeper. And that someone, after prayers, and intercessions, and laying on of hands, and prayer cloths, and faith, faith, faith, dies. I want to see you go on that thread and tell those posters, and the family of that FReeper that this person evidently did not have enough faith. That this person WOULD have been healed "by His stripes" if only this person would have had MORE faith.
Do it. I'll give you a thread you can go to right now. Show us your faith in action. Show us your absolute confidence that with enough faith, God WILL heal those who believe, every time. It's time to shut our mouths with the power of your beliefs.
Ping me when you've done it. Or better yet, we'll all just wait and watch your unswerving "faith" in action.
I’m with you on that one smvoice. I have challenged others with those same challenges and not once have I been taken up on any of them. It seems most who vehemently support the “healing ministry” have a lack of faith when challenged to produce.
I’m with you on that one smvoice. I have challenged others with those same challenges and not once have I been taken up on any of them. It seems most who vehemently support the “healing ministry” have a lack of faith when challenged to produce.
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